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Old 03-31-2004, 07:37 AM
     
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I have been trying bebopper and I like it. However, I use my Kyocera MP3 ability to listen to audiobooks, and sometimes the individual MP3 file is very long. I really would like to see if fast forward and fast reverse buttons could be added into bebopper. That would make the program perfect.

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Not possible. Lay the blame for that on Kyocera, as it's not Bebopper's fault. The Kyocera 7135 SDK does not support it. Without that support, no MP3 player will ever be able to do fast forward or rewind on the 7135.

A workaround would be to find a program to split up the audiobook into pieces (i.e. chapters). That way you can start/stop playing at a particular chapter to minimize the wait time to get to where you want in the audio book.
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I split the eight one hour CD's of Derek Jacobi's Odyssey into sixteen half-hours using a video (MPEG-2) editor. I just renamed the mp3 files to mp2 and loaded them in and cut them in half. Worked fine.

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Michael, this is mostly aimed at you, since I've discovered you have a rather freakishly good understanding of what's going on "under the hood" of this little beastie... In doing a number of searches for Palm OS MP3 players while I didn't have access to these boards (still not sure why), I've noticed that there are NO MP3 players for anything less than OS5 that are capable of FF or REW, let alone anything that made nearly as much use of the external hardware of the 7135 as does BeBopper. It would seem to me that the fault may lie within the Dragonball processor. Any ideas if this is true or not? If it's not, how much whining at Kyocera do you think it would take to get them to support it in the SDK? :: grin ::
 
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Michael, this is mostly aimed at you, since I've discovered you have a rather freakishly good understanding of what's going on "under the hood" of this little beastie... In doing a number of searches for Palm OS MP3 players while I didn't have access to these boards (still not sure why), I've noticed that there are NO MP3 players for anything less than OS5 that are capable of FF or REW, let alone anything that made nearly as much use of the external hardware of the 7135 as does BeBopper. It would seem to me that the fault may lie within the Dragonball processor. Any ideas if this is true or not? If it's not, how much whining at Kyocera do you think it would take to get them to support it in the SDK? :: grin ::
I've no idea if what you say is true or not. I was merely repeating what the author of Bebopper, Jonathan Bell, has said to other people about the lack of FF/REW. Perhaps you could ask him in the forums on http://www.belltools.com.
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I'm sure someone will correct me, but.. Its my understanding that native support for MP3 functionality was not built into the palm OS until v5. That's why the MP3 player in the 7135 is a special case. It has its own seperate MP3 chip. That's why Bebooper works only with the 7135 and its hardware buttons and such. Two add functionality beyond what is made available in the SDK someone would have write an app that would access the MP3 chip directly, which someone has metioned on another post. to my knowlege no one has done this.
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The MP3 playing capability is actually built into the phone side chipset, having nothing to do with the Dragonball. And we are limited to that chip's abilities and what the 7135 API exposes. Any current CDMA chipset has this capability, but so far very few devices have exploited it. I think Samsung had a combo phone/MP3 player at Sprint a couple years back, but I don't think it did well (too expensive, among other things).

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I'm sure someone will correct me, but.. Its my understanding that native support for MP3 functionality was not built into the palm OS until v5. That's why the MP3 player in the 7135 is a special case. It has its own seperate MP3 chip. That's why Bebooper works only with the 7135 and its hardware buttons and such. Two add functionality beyond what is made available in the SDK someone would have write an app that would access the MP3 chip directly, which someone has metioned on another post. to my knowlege no one has done this.
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The MP3 playing capability is actually built into the phone side chipset, having nothing to do with the Dragonball. And we are limited to that chip's abilities and what the 7135 API exposes. Any current CDMA chipset has this capability, but so far very few devices have exploited it. I think Samsung had a combo phone/MP3 player at Sprint a couple years back, but I don't think it did well (too expensive, among other things).
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I don't know about that "any current CDMA chipset has this capability." As I recall from an ancient thread, the 7135 has a dedicated DSP chip (from Yamaha?) that handles voice recording and MP3. The $64,000 question is whether that DSP chip is programmable beyond what Kyocera's SDK reveals. Only Kyo and Yamaha know the answer to that question. But I do recall that there was actually some limited information on that chip available on the web at one point.
 
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