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Old 01-13-2004, 01:51 AM
     
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Thumbs up Contrast Bug Fix!

For those that have the contrast bug, it looks like the fix is in:

http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fu...e&prodid=53384

I don't have the bug so I can't test it out. Apparently the software author doesn't have the bug either. He announced the release in the files section. I'm posting this message here for those that don't visit the files section very often.

Good luck, I hope it is the solution to all your contrast woes!
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Great tip - thanks I would have missed it.
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seems to be working for me.... I've already had to soft reset, and my contrast has stayed the same after the reset. Usually get the contrast "bug" after a reset....
 
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Thanks for posting it here too Data Rox. Hopefully it will be handy. Here's a link to it in the files section:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showt...threadid=24068
It is still under development and I am releasing new versions based on the feedback I'm getting.

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Thumbs up WOW! Thanks!

DAvid,

Thanks for writting some really GREAT apps for the 7135.

I have them all !

Here is a list of all his programs:

http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fu...vid%20Walthall


I highly recommend ALL of his 7135 programs!

Thanks again!

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Now all we need is a palette fix when we switch back from a game to the phone/hello screen
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Now, this may be a little too early to report, but...

I loaded Contrast Fixer this afternoon (anbd received an immediate update - thanks David). Using the "step" feature, I can see the 7135 "recover" from a contrast bug. But, that's not the only good news.

I have a consistent complaint with the 7135 in that the CPU seems to sleep for 7-10 seconds after opening the flip. You know, press a button and nothing happens? Well, since I installed Contrast Fixer, that problem seems to have left. I say "seems" because it's a bit early, but I have been having no "sleep freezes" since. Can anyone figure out why this would be?
 
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I noticed that too so far. Maybe the CBF (contrast bug fix) app is keeping the phone from going into some kind of sleep mode. I'll have to monitor my battery usage.
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Question Contrast Bug Fix & Energy Dimmer

Is anyone using both CBF and Energy Dimmer Hack at the same time?

EDH works well for the brightness but does not effect contrast. I noticed the screen shot of CBF @ PalmGear. It has settings for brightness. Won't that cause problems with EDH???
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I noticed that too so far. Maybe the CBF (contrast bug fix) app is keeping the phone from going into some kind of sleep mode. I'll have to monitor my battery usage.
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It should have no effect on battery life. (Well, technically it will have a *very* tiny negative effect since it has to run for a few milliseconds each time the palm is flipped open, but we'll ignore that.)

The way that it works is that the app is run just after the flip is open. It has control over the whole palm at that time, and nothing else will run until it is has exited. So the fact that you can do stuff on your palm after opening it means that the Contrast Fixer has finished. Thus it won't keep the palm from sleeping.

As to why it seems to have the side benefit of fixing the "sleep freezes," I honestly don't know. If this were my Oral Defense, I'd mumble something about how Kyocera had to tweak a lot of the flip opening timing issues for the second release. Maybe whatever was causing the delay is now run later than my app, and the slight delay caused by my app makes the timing work out better. Of course, that is just a guess, and the sleep freezes could be on hiatus just to make me look foolish in front of my Committee.

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CBF & Energy Dimmer Trial Results

I am currently trying out CBF. Earlier, I asked if it will work with Energy Dimmer Hack. To answer my own question.......YES IT WILL.

HOWEVER, I have discovered a contrast setting that seems to trigger the Contrast Bug and even CBF won't correct it. In fact, on my phone CBF makes it worse.

If I have the contrast set at 135 (between the 'o' and 'n' of the word 'contrast', the bug shows up with a vengence. CBF will not fix it. When I open the palm contrast window, the slider is exactly where I set it, but the contrast is similar to having the slider on the 'u' of the word 'adjust'. The only thing that will correct it is to move the slider all the way to the right then back to the 'n' of 'contrast'. I then went into CBF and changed my setting to 138 for contrast.

So far it seems to be working. I can sometimes see CBF "working" when I open the flip. The contrast darkens as I am opening it. I guess that is what it is supposed to be doing!

FYI------my settings are: Brightness 66, Contrast 138, # steps 20, Step size 1. My phone is an ALLTEL purchased 3/03 with the original software MZ 1.0.27, SZ 1.0.13.

Prior to today, my fix for the contrast bug was opening and shutting the flip if the bug showed up (usually 1-2x daily). Once in a while I would have to mess with the contrast slider setting to correct the problem.

My suggestion would be to avoid a contrast setting of 135-137. I will post more if I discover anything significant.

HTH.
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As a follow up, as soon as I posted my last comments, the contrast bug struck again. I have now moved my contrast setting to 140. A little darker, but seems to be a more stable setting.
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As to why it seems to have the side benefit of fixing the "sleep freezes," I honestly don't know. If this were my Oral Defense, I'd mumble something about how Kyocera had to tweak a lot of the flip opening timing issues for the second release. Maybe whatever was causing the delay is now run later than my app, and the slight delay caused by my app makes the timing work out better. Of course, that is just a guess, and the sleep freezes could be on hiatus just to make me look foolish in front of my Committee.

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ONce again Dave thanks for the CBF fix. So far I've left mine at the default values and have seen the contrast bug pop up only once. But I think that was related to graphically oreinted game I was playing. I never notice how bad the contrast bug was on my phone until CBF started keeping it under control. I just left it at whatever washed out setting it wanted to be at.
So the CBF runs when the flip is opened. That explains why some of my flip open sounds seem a little slow. And thanks for the "extra" feature, SFWB (Sleep Freeze Wakeup Bug). I think your "Oral Defense" analogy is the wrong tact. You should think marketing! Never pass up an opportunity to let people think your accidental side benefit was actually the result of a forward thinking design! Just think how impressed your comittee would be.
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The Sleep Freeze bug affected me around 10 times a day, while the contrast bug affected me only twice a day or so.

Needless to say, I am thrilled that the SF bug seems gone, as it was the single-most annoying aspect of the 7137 experience.

BRAVO!

Now then, can someone explain what the "steps" features do?

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Re: Contrast Bug Fix & Energy Dimmer

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Is anyone using both CBF and Energy Dimmer Hack at the same time?

EDH works well for the brightness but does not effect contrast. I noticed the screen shot of CBF @ PalmGear. It has settings for brightness. Won't that cause problems with EDH???
I dunno about EDH and the brightness slider, but ever since I got the last PRL (50113 for VZW) my screen dims itself after a few seconds, though only when I am on a phone call. It's actually ok since the screen is entirely still readable, and I have brightness at the default of about 20% (just at the right edge of the [Done] button]). Contrast is prolly 45-49%. I honestly have had no issue whatsoever with contrast since this was installed. Is that what you mean by EDH, or is there another file one could install? Sadly, some quirky programs still are giving the palette a fit , 'specially those that use a dark screen...THAT bothers me more than anything, sigh
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Needless to say, I am thrilled that the SF bug seems gone, as it was the single-most annoying aspect of the 7137 experience.

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Now then, can someone explain what the "steps" features do?
Darn. I knew I should have made the documentation on that better (or at all!). Basically, the way it works is it moves the contrast over a bit and then changes it back. My understanding of the way most people fixed the bug was to move the contrast setting over until the screen jumped back to the right setting, then move it back to where it looked good, so my program tries to do just that. The # steps is the number of times it will shift the contrast. The Step Size is the number of units it moves each step. So if #steps=10 and stepsize=2, and your contrast setting is 100, then it will go 102,104,106,108,110,112,114,116,118,120 and then reverse back to 100.

Each step takes some time, and each phone seems to be different, so hopefully this will allow people to optimize their own values.

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Bug is back....

Chain of events:

Installed Contrast Bug Fixer 1.1 about 3 days ago.....this is my first contrast problem since it was installed.

Was using Bebopper in the charging cradle, paused Bebopper. (flip open)

Removed phone from cradle, closed flip & inserted into my belt holster.

When I returned to my office, inserted my phone into the cradle, opened the flip. (Bebopper returned to the screen)

BOOM!

Contrast bug is back!

Went to the Contrast Bug fixer, setting were all as left before.
Tapped "set", did not fix it

Had to goto the contrast setting & move the bar a little, contrast returned to pervious settings....

Did not try closing & re-opening the flip to see if that would fix it.

For reference:
Phone Software 34

PDA Software 19

Contrast Fixer version 1.1
Brightness 169
Contrast 110

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Perhaps it was because you paused Beeboper instead of closing it. As I understand it, CBF runs when you open your flip. So when you opened your flip the next time The CBF didn't run because Beeboper was running in a suspended state. Same thing happened to me, I think, when I left another program "paused" and closed the flip. I think it was bejeweled. I'll have to experiment with it. Does that sound right Dave?
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That sounds reasonable. The app actually responds to a notification that is sent when the device wakes up, and if it never really sleeps, it won't send the wakeup notification. (Also, the specs say that the notification is NOT guaranteed to be sent on wakeup. Maybe pausing BeBopper causes it to not send the notification.)

It also makes sense that tapping "Set" wouldn't fix it. The pda think that it has the right contrast setting, and only figures out that it is wrong when the contrast is moved enough. Just pressing Set would not change the contrast setting, so it wouldn't fix anything.

If it happens again, it would be interesting to see if it is repeatable, and if closing and reopening the flip fixes it.

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