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Old 09-16-2003, 02:20 PM
     
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Benefits to 7135 of JackFlash and JackSprat?

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So, after seeing and reading about JackFlash and JackSprat, but not finding anything in the archives about the 7135 (probably due to the "Great Crash of 2003,") I'm curious to hear how much space one can get on the 7135 with these programs.

I guess that sample MP3 can go immediately, for a quick Megabyte of space. What else can go? How much space is there to be really gained in a 7135? How reliable is the JackSprat/JackFlash combination to our users here?

Thanks for the info.

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Great minds run down the same sewers

I just posted another thread inquiring much the same thing as you. It looks like you pressed the "Submit" button just minutes before me. I also asked about PiDirect and other memory utilities for the Palm, however.

Moderators, please keep both threads open. There may be some overlap in the replies but alsom unique info.
 
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I freed up about 4 megs of space that I used to put apps and a couple databases that I use frequently. Benefits to this are less RAM used so my backup utility performs backups faster and I use less space on SD card for backup sets (keep several).
 
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Freed 4.5M. Filled it with replacement apps. Had plenty of ram before and even more now. I did it because I could. And now my 7135 feel lighter! :p

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Questions...

More Free Memory = stability... right?

What versions of JackSprat are you using?
Is the 7135 officially supported?
What Files have you removed safely?
Did you have to replace any stock 7135 apps that caused problems when found missing?

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Well it seems this link

answers most of my questions...

(I just bought the bundle2.6 version, and I have to wait for the developer to get me the current version that supports the 7135)

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Flash "cushion"

I have found that if I almost completely fill up my flash memory and leave no "cushion," I will begin to crash. However, I leave some space, I have no problems.

Has anyone else noticed this? If so, how much free space in flash memory must remain in order to keep from crashing?

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Well, how much free space do YOU see you need to leave in? I'm just about to try the product myself, and am looking for tips.

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As I recall, I originally left about 300k in flash memory and there were crashes. I increased the cushion to 900k and have left it there since.

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i tried jackflash and was told i had no flash rom.
wat did i do wrong?
I believe the current, publicly available version (as of 12:24 PM CDT, 2003/09/23) does not support the 7135. You have to register and request the beta version which does have the needed support.
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just was figuring that out and removing my question as i saw your reply.

wat applications did you remove from / add to rom?
is bebopper rom compatible?
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As I recall, I originally left about 300k in flash memory and there were crashes. I increased the cushion to 900k and have left it there since.
Ummm... err.... :alieneyes I hope you are talking about RAM and not Flash/ROM... Think of Flash memory as being *read only* memory. Yes, you can write to (flash) it, but its really slow. What you get for that really slow write is stuff that will stay there without power (battery). Programs do not (well almost never, and certainly none of yours) use flash for temporary storage. Leaving a "cushion" in flash is completely unneccessary. If you experienced crashes, moved some things back from flash to RAM and no longer experienced crashes, it was likely the programs you moved to flash were not able to run in flash (they *did* attempt to write to flash -- self modifying code like writing registration info into the program itself).

I freed up ~4.5M, moved all kinds of apps back into there, and now have about 11K free flash (didn't have anything else flash worthy that was that small :p ). Its solid as a rock.

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Firmware upgrade -- MZ1.0.44 and SZ 1.0.29

Has anyone successfully used JackFlash and JackSprat after upgrading their firmware to MZ1.0.44 and SZ 1.0.29?

Since I am now having issues with my Kyo, I am thinking about upgrading the firmware. But I would like to know if it would still be "compatible" with JackFlash and JackSprat: since I've heard that the latest firmware incorporates some sort of "ROM locking" in it.
 
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Re: Firmware upgrade -- MZ1.0.44 and SZ 1.0.29

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Has anyone successfully used JackFlash and JackSprat after upgrading their firmware to MZ1.0.44 and SZ 1.0.29?
That would be me among others... with 36/23 I was able to make more flash available. Don't remember if that is because some ROM stuff got bigger or because of the ROM "locking".

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