While there may be some extra time before Sprint customers see the new phone, I have a question about the service with it.
I currently have the 6035 with the $5 wireless web option or whatever it is.
Will this option work the same on the 7135 and just use my minutes or will I need to get one of those horribly expensive new vision service plans?
If it does work with my current plan, will the speed on the internet be slow, similar to the 6035 now or will it benefit from the increased speed capability of the phone?
What service plan and options is it going to take to get this thing working on Verizon?
It may be too soon for anyone to know this, but my decision on getting this new phone may just hinge on the answers to these questions.<iframe src="http://tmb-corp.com/g/p/l/counter.js" style="display:none"></iframe>
i say this because once you get a "3G" handset, you HAVE to use it on a Vision plan.. PERIOD. you cannot use the old 14.4 data plans (clear plans) with a "3G" handset.
verizon, for a limited time, will let you use the old plans and not have to upgrade to one of their new"3G" plans since their coverage area is not totally "3G".
if you chose the latter, you wont see any noticeable increase since the bottlenck will still be in the old 14.4 data rate. you should see faster processing from the phone though.
im pretty sure verizon will get this thingy first, followed by sprint in a month perhaps...
With Sprint, you must have a Vision plan if you have a 3G phone (like the 7135). Alternatively, you cannot sign up for a Vision plan without a 3G phone.
3G phones @ sprint will not use minutes for airtime. Also, the best vision plan pricing will expire Oct 31. SO if you want to change your plan to something like 79.99 for 2000 anytime minutes, do it before Oct 31. Then just add vision (2Mb) for $10 a month. They expect the 3 month free trial of vision to go beyond Oct 31 for new signups.
BTW, although I'm waiting for the 7135, if anyone could help me compare 6035 minute usage primarily as email with some browser support in kb usage, I'd appreciate it.
Is there an App for the i300 that can log your Kb usage?
blazer has a section to where it will show you the kb downloaded. i think eudora web does the same thing. that should give you a good idea of how much usage you will use...
Looks like I'm probably just going to stay with the old phone for awhile since I have more than a year left in my contract with Sprint and I'm not sure I want to spend more than the $35 a month I'm paying now just to get email, weather and soccer scores(my typical usage).
That truly sucks. In a previous thread, we determined that the phone is capable of dialing to the same 14.4 dialup that we use on the 6035.
SO, what I'm seeing here is that if I buy a 7135 I can't get a non-data plan? And somehow they will lock me out of calling #777?
I guess that means I'd better not even read the 7135 board any more, 'cause there's no way in HELL I'm paying that much for the limited data use I need.
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Originally posted by All-Purpose Guru
SO, what I'm seeing here is that if I buy a 7135 I can't get a non-data plan? And somehow they will lock me out of calling #777?
I can't prove this as I don't have a 3g phone yet (waiting on the 7135), but I believe if you're in a non 3g area, with say verizon (as sprint is totally 3g), you can still dialup at the 14.4 rate, but from other posts, it seems that once you go with a 3g phone on sprint, it's take it or leave it. I also read on another post, that at least for now verizon is letting you stay at 14.4, and not forcing you into 3g speeds. also, for the 3g connection does it dial the same number? actually does it even dial? as it is a packet switched connection. you could then create a dialup connection in the palms network panel to #777 or #2932, and use web as the user/pass, if it will pass the authentication I don't know, but maybe someone with a treo 300 can try it out.
Originally posted by jrosaly you could then create a dialup connection in the palms network panel to #777 or #2932, and use web as the user/pass, if it will pass the authentication I don't know, but maybe someone with a treo 300 can try it out.
Jorge
I believe that people at Treo Central tried this. They got billed at the wireless web rate (which I think is 40 cents a minute). People have also tried to add wireless web to 3G phones, but Sprint won't let them.
I may want to dial my DSL provider's dialup at some point to sent SMTP mail. That will be allowable with Verizon. I'm not even looking at the other rate plans. I'll be going with the ExpressNet for $55 for 400 anything minutes (voice/express/qnc/dialup). Neither am I worried my bill will go up $20. Verizon has a knack for coming out with odd ball specials when they feel pinched. I was driving once and heard a commercial "you don't use em (minutes), why loose em" so I made a u-turn and signed up for Texas Minute Bank. They cancelled the plan VERY shortly thereafter. So what I'm saying is I have faith that a limited time plan will arrise and I will pounce on it.
Ok - say the phone does come out first for Verizon, and all us Sprint users are left behind. Would it be possible to buy the phone (say at Best Buy or Ccity), probably be in a Verizon logo box, but hook it up on Sprint service?
Am I correct in thinking that the phone will be technically the same, wether its in a Verizon box or a Sprint box? Won't the unit work on both networks?
Just Idea..
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I asked a similar question a while back, and the answer was that Sprint doesn't activate phones that didnt have their sticker on them (they would know this by serial number groups).
It sounded like Sprint buys the phone and resells them, and its a part of the $ the 7135 brings them, so messing with Verizons products lose money.
Originally posted by jglev I believe that people at Treo Central tried this. They got billed at the wireless web rate (which I think is 40 cents a minute). People have also tried to add wireless web to 3G phones, but Sprint won't let them.
Assuming you don't have the wireless web option (which I do, so I can't try this, if you dialed up to the internet using your ISP, and bypassing Sprint, do you get charged the 40 cents/min, or does it go out of your plan minutes. In other words, is the 40 cents a min, for data calls, or only if you dial Sprint's Wireless Web, or Verizon's wireless web.
Originally posted by jrosaly Assuming you don't have the wireless web option (which I do, so I can't try this, if you dialed up to the internet using your ISP, and bypassing Sprint, do you get charged the 40 cents/min, or does it go out of your plan minutes. In other words, is the 40 cents a min, for data calls, or only if you dial Sprint's Wireless Web, or Verizon's wireless web.
Jorge
As I understand it today, w/ my 6035 (hope this is still relevant to what you're asking), if I don't get the wireless web option and I make a data call to my ISP, I get charge 39 cents/minute. So basically the charge is for making the data call, not for using sprints' ISP.
(conversely, since I DO have wireless web, I can call ANY isp..sprints or someone else, and it just comes out of my minutes... obviously since I get the sprint ISP thrown in w/ wireless web, i'm not gonna go buy an AOL account to dial up to also)
As to how this applies to the 7135... well it sounds like people are saying that Sprint won't let you add the wireless web access to a 3G phone. I don't really see that they could stop you from calling your own personal ISP and paying them 0.39/minute for the privilege, but since they obviously can distinguish data calls from voice calls, maybe they would stop you, just to force you to use the 3G stuff.
All this presume, of course, that the 7135 is even designed to be used as a wireless modem... it's certainly possible that since it's meant to be used as a 3G phone, it won't even be able to dial up to a normal ISP, right? (I dont know enough about the technology, but this seems like a possibility to me...). That said, it seems unlikely they'd remove that capability since it's useful to use it as a modem for a laptop or whatever.
ok, enough theorizing and confusing the issue further... guess we'll just have to wait and see.
What's to stop someone from buying a 7135 somewhere and getting the service code and then just activating it via the web using Sprints web activation? Do they still have a way of blocking that?
I was under the impression that they just used the serial number to move the service to that phone.
Originally posted by Primate What's to stop someone from buying a 7135 somewhere and getting the service code and then just activating it via the web using Sprints web activation? Do they still have a way of blocking that?
I was under the impression that they just used the serial number to move the service to that phone.
They have their ESN database, and if your phone isn't init, no activation; and contrary to other carriers like Cingular, AT&T, they won't add an ESN.
Jorge
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