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Old 03-17-2004, 03:20 AM
     
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Invert 6035 Screen?

Hello folks. I just reactivated my old 6035 and had forgotten how much I like this little brick.

I've tried using a few different Hacks to get the backlight to invert the screen (dark text on light background) but for some reason none seem to work. I'm using XMaster instead of HackMaster - wonder if that makes a difference -

Anyway, are any of you using a display inverter successfully? Which one?

Thanks for any info.

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Re: Invert 6035 Screen?

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Hello folks. I just reactivated my old 6035 and had forgotten how much I like this little brick.
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The Invert process your trying to peform won't work on the 6035. There's actually a Palm Dot Command(s) #8, that will switch earlier Palm units to the Inverse display.

Unfortunately it appears as though that feature was removed in the firmware of the phone, and I myself have not been able to locate a hack for sometime either.

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Is this to say that you'vd used the Green Light Hack Sucessfully?
 
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Hm. Well I've tried that one and one called Inverter, and neither seems to work.

I spose it's just as well, as more lit pixels would fry the battery sooner. The problem is that the current backlighting scheme doesn't work for partial light - too dark to see the unlit screen, and with the simultaneous black unlit and light lit areas, the screen is pretty much invisible.

Oh well.
 
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Downloaded Hack Application and loaded the Greenlight Hack, and stilll no inverse display.

Has anyone had sucess with this application? If so, please make note of the steps you've performed that turns it off and on, etc.

Thanks in Advance

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OK. I think I can help, here goes.

I have X-Master, and the green light hack. Hack has been activated. I have changed the "pen" settings in the system preferences "buttons" section to turn on the backlight.

After doing an upstroke with the pen, the backlight should come on, then press and hold the IR button. The screen should invert.

Reverse the process to go back.

Hope this is what you are looking for.

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Finally!

Thanks. Thanks. Thanks!

What seems to be the routine for me is:

Use the IR button for normal backlighting
Use the Up-Stroke for the Hack Lighting

I'm using the Hackmater App, not sure if X-Master is any different, better or ? (have an opinion?)

But after, well let see, 2 years, I now have what I was able to do on my Palm III.


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LB...you've got it right, the IR button for regular backlighting (apparently can't be reprogrammed), and reassign the up pen stroke for the hack backlighting.

X-Master works great as well...I trashed Hackmaster when I got my 6035 almost 3 years ago.
 
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Hm. Well I've tried that one and one called Inverter, and neither seems to work.
Inverter and many of the other hacks (as well as the .8 shortcut) rely on a bit in the Dragonball video controller that inverts the screen. The 6035 and 7135 do not use the Dragonball video controller, so the bit doesn't have any effect.
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I spose it's just as well, as more lit pixels would fry the battery sooner.
This is absolutely untrue, and is an "old wive's tale."

An LCD works by blocking or unblocking the transmission of light-- either from the backlight or the background. Some devices work by reflecting light that comes from the front, and others work by light from the back-- but they all work by acting like a shutter.

The backlight on a device uniformly lights the back of the LCD display-- and the shutter effect of the LCD produces light or dark pixels on the screen. There is no power savings to having a screen darker or lighter, as the backlight illuminates the entire screen's back at all times.
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The problem is that the current backlighting scheme doesn't work for partial light - too dark to see the unlit screen, and with the simultaneous black unlit and light lit areas, the screen is pretty much invisible.
The difference between older devices (which don't invert the screen) and newer devices (which do) is that dark pixels are transmissive on new devices (with a black background) and light pixels are transmissive (with a white background) on older devices. Because of this, the screen inverts on new devices when the backlight turns on.
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LB...you've got it right, the IR button for regular backlighting (apparently can't be reprogrammed), and reassign the up pen stroke for the hack backlighting.

X-Master works great as well...I trashed Hackmaster when I got my 6035 almost 3 years ago.
Do you have more stuff that works better with X-Master over Hackmaster?
(Just trying to figure if one is better than the another)