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Old 12-06-2007, 09:04 AM
     
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Now, have we beaten this particular piece of trivia to death enough, or do we need to fling command strings at each other at 50 paces?
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Old 12-07-2007, 12:49 PM
     
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I'm still a little confused on the tethering plans for AT&T. I just got the Tilt and am looking for the right data plan for me (never had a data plan before) and was disappointed to see that AT&T almost doubles the price of the Max plan if you want to tether. I'd like to do it but don't need it enough to justify paying that much more. I think someone mentioned another app that allows you to tether under AT&T's "radar"?

So can you tether with just the max plan or are we stuck with paying for a tethering plan?

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If you're only tethering occasionally, don't sweat changing plans. Wait for them to catch you doing it. They are (rightfully) concerned with someone who's connected to a corporate VPN 16 hours a day and putting heavy volumes on the network. So if it's not consistent and high volume, you're almost certain to slide under the radar.
 
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:56 PM
     
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Does anyone know if you can tether the Pantech Duo like you can the Tilt? (Including the ability to access the app for tethering on the Pantech Duo via the file manager just as you can on the Tilt?)

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Old 12-23-2007, 07:10 PM
     
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OK, so I'm finally getting around to setting up using my phone as a modem. I installed the cab and i can run the program. Just want to make sure I know what I'm doing here.

When I start up the app. It offers USB and BT PAN. I'll probably use BT for the most part. So first question, do I need to be connected via BT through Active Sync for this to work?

Secondly it offers two network connections. One is MediaNet and the other AT&T ISP GPRS. Which of these two should I select?

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Don't connect via AS. Tell the phone to connect, then use the BT manager on your laptop/PC to join a PAN. That should set things up correctly.

If you ever do use USB, make sure that you disable USB connections in AS first, or tethering won't work.

And you probably always want to use MediaNet.
 
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I'm guessing I'm missing something simple. I'm running the app on the phone. I have it running the BT Pan and connected to MediaNet. It let's me know the device needs to be discoverable and I allow that. I go to my PC (Vista based) and go to network connections. I tell it to view available BT PAN's but don't find any. I've confirmed that BT work between the two devices through AS a few minutes ago.

If it matters I notice there are no ports listed in the ports tab on the phone.

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Have you paired the phone to the laptop?
 
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Yes, the phone had been paired. I blew away the BT pairing and basically started over. All sorts of weird things happened after doing that. I think I'm back to normal and I connected late last night through BT PAN. Didn't check to see if it was actually working as I was connected via Wi-fi on computer and was tired. I'll try it this evening perhaps by turning off the 802.11 and seeing if I can browse. Appreciate the help here.
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The file is located under Windows on the tilt. It is called intShrUI. I have used it with USB. You just connect your handheld to your laptop let the activie sync finish. Once it is finished click on the that file on your handheld to kick it off.
 
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If you're going to use Internet Sharing, you shouldn't be allowing WMDC or ActiveSync to connect. Go into the connection settings and uncheck the option to allow connections via USB. Otherwise, the phone/laptop are likely to get confused.
 
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I had no problem finding the app though I did use "restore" cab to create a link. But when I connect it to my desktop it only shows local connectivity. I'm going to experiment more but if someone understand what is happening it would save me time.

It's also strange that it doesn't offer Wi-Fi as a connectivity option -- it's almost as if they didn't get this "Internet" thing.
 
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I was able to get it to work based on the information here. One thing I noticed was that if I was connected to a Wi-Fi spot (a network) through my PC that wasn't working the PC still tried to use that network. I had to manually disconnect from it so that the PC made use of the BT connection and internet through the phone.
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Never mind -- it's now working ...
 
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It's also strange that it doesn't offer Wi-Fi as a connectivity option -- it's almost as if they didn't get this "Internet" thing.
There's a number of problems using WiFi. First - the phone isn't an AP, so its electronics might have difficulty limiting connectivity to a single laptop/device (which one would assume you'd want to do rather than offering free Internet access to anyone that could see the phone's "fake" AP). Second - battery. WiFi + HSDPA = real battery drain, which would probably generate numerous complaints. Third - security. While the phone supports encryption over WiFi, it's not an AP with all of it's built in encryption firmware and hardware. So you might end up giving away information you don't want or allowing a path into your machine if you went this route.

But let's also recall what the feature is intended for - individual use. It's supposed to provide you with the ability to reach the Internet using your equipment and your data plan. It's "Tethering" not "Starbucks."
 
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I realize that it's all about serving the deity -- ARPU -- but I should have the option of making these decisions. With an external card I can use a DLink DIR-450 to do just that -- create an access point to share with my friends.

What gives some modern robber baron the right to tell me what my bits can mean?

Of course it would help if 802.11 were a far better protocol but that's another topic. Bluetooth is not necessarily much better at power per bit. It's just that that Bluetooh is a siloed protocol whose biggest feature is that it gives antitrsut violations a protective aura of technology.
 
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I realize that it's all about serving the deity -- ARPU -- but I should have the option of making these decisions. With an external card I can use a DLink DIR-450 to do just that -- create an access point to share with my friends.
Check out this post at xda. You can do exactly what you're looking to do - use your phone as a wireless access point.

Internet Sharing over WiFi - WMWifiRouter v0.91 (Jan 14, 200 - Page 30 - xda-developers
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There's an Internet Connection Sharing App in WM6. On the Tilt, it's not in the Programs menu, but you should find"IntShrUI.exe" in the Windows folder. See if that gets you what you're looking for.
I "copied" and "pasted" the IntShrUI file (the 37B size file) into my Windows->Start Menu->Programs so that I can have the icon in the Programs folder.

Clicking this shortcut and plugging my phone to my laptop enabled me to use my phone as a modem. Just as a "data point", doing DSLreports.com speed tests, I got 177kb/s download and 77kb/s upload via the "Edge" network...not bad!!! I'll post the speed results for the 3G once I hop onto that signal...
 
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Here is a cab file to restore your Internet Sharing icons:

http://urprey.com/web/tilt/restoreics.cab

Save the file to your phone and install it. It will put the correct shortcuts in the right places.
Aside from restoring the "Internet Sharing" icon, does this do anything else? I'm trying to limit the amount of programs I install since I am still trying to debug the phone.

Are there any other apps/icons that are worth restoring?
 
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I just did this now. My speed test got me 811 kb/s download and 344 kb/s upload. This is 5pm EST in Boston to San Franciso thru the dslreports.com
 
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