I was debating on posting a similar thread, just because I have a Touch right now, but got very excited about the Pre after seeing all the videos on it. I didn't do so however because I figured someone would tell me that this topic would not belong into this forum.
Either way, I have had my touch close to a year and a half. I am not the kind of person that buys a phone and just leaves it the way it is, I mod mine pretty extensively. I also use this phone as my business phone and so far it has served me well and has proven to be fairly reliable, with only a few lock ups in between, the phone slowing down to a crawl for no reason at all, and a few other little quirks. Seeing that the Touch was my first PDA phone, or
Pocket PC, whatever you want to call it, I was initially blown away by just how much you can do with this thing, and how much in the way of modification was possible. So of course my Touch has Manila 2d installed, the M2D customizer and tons of apps. However, after seeing the Pre, and seeing how clean and smooth and thoughtful everything was organized, I got my eyes opened as to why people call Windows Mobile clunky....because it is. All that "make it look pretty" stuff is just that, you smear make up over a pimple, underneath it all lies just clunky old WM. From what I have seen, WM 6.5 is basically more of the same, just a bit prettier, and who knows when WM7 will come out, and how it will look. For now, I am waiting on the Pre to be released, and unless the reviews come back abysmal, I will probably switch camps and give the Pre and the new webOS a try!