Where are these people reporting $1000 bills, I did a search over there and found none??

Until I see any kind of proof, I am going to assume that it's a bunch of B.S. a nice new rumor started by you taking the word a Store Employee in the first place.

It's not a big deal to me $39.99 is still cheap. I love the unlimited data, I just don't pay because I don't have to, but would gladly pay if needed, and I believe the PAM is still $39.99 a month.


I would think now more than ever they wouldn't care, because we can easily consume as much or more data using just our phone as by tethering.

And with the size of our micro cards nowadays a person could just be downloading huge files on the phone itself, or a person could be constantly streaming Slingbox, Orb, Sprint TV, or other streams, so what's the big difference if you're using huge data for those "legit" uses or using the same amount tethering.

Yeah that's 32gb^^^
I've done that much on and off since the 6700 days so I think I've already gotten my moneys worth. I guess I'll be expecting a million dollar bill for all my past data.

There is a thread in the Mogul forum that explains it. Do a search over there.

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You pay for data ON YOUR DEVICE, not tethering. THATS why there is an add-on tethering plan. It is up to Sprint its their network youre on and they set the rules you can basically deal with it or there are other carriers thats the reality of it.

You're going to have to link to it - I certainly couldn't find anything over there. And if it were a real charge and not an incorrectly provisioned phone (which happens all too often) I'd think it would be headlines on the front page.

That having been said, these rumors seem to come from Sprint every 6 months or so. I very seldom tether, but I'm interested in seeing what happens with this. Of all the ways Sprint could economize this one seems kind of silly, particularly given the company time that's going to be spent enforcing it and that a minuscule percentage of customers even know that it's possible. - sheureka

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LOL that's a good one. Somebody needs to tell that to Verizon.

What you suggest requires stateful packet contents inspection -- it is extremely resource intensive and not foolproof. There is nothing that prevents me from writing my own WM phone app that spits out that FireFox UA string. It can also easily be defeated by tunneling, VPN, SSL, etc. In short, it is highly unlikely that Sprint would use such techniques to detect tethering. (BTW, if they did use such techniques, then PDAnet would not be a protection from it...)

Basically there *is* no technique that is foolproof and can't be worked around... unless, like Apple, they move to completely control the software environment of the phone and disallow loading of arbitrary programs...

Anyways, just like speeding... I'll wait to see if the guy ahead of me gets caught...
(I tether *maybe* 10 days a year)

Try this
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6...tml#post632676

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You can start here but its all over the various forums.

I actually just went and skimmed all 17 pages of that post (and noticed how much I used to post over there) and never read anything like what you seem to have read. And the post is about 3 years old anyway so I'm not sure what the relevance would be.

The Touch, 6600, 6700, and 6800 don't have the same NAI structure as regular phones. The NAI can be disabled on Samsung regular phones, but not on Sanyo, etc. On the phones with the NAI that cannot be disabled tethering is blocked. - sheureka

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I am not questioning if they have a fast network or not, I personally think the network is great. My comment was aimed at the fact that Sprint has a significantly lower price for their data access plans. If they negate that advantage by charging for tethering then there is nothing holding back people like me from going to other providers.

Rather than pay for tethering, I would get a dedicated data plan for my laptop with whomever provides the best value. At this moment that would be AT&T because my laptop has a built in AT&T card and they give me a discount for additional lines.

What I was refuring to is tha other carriers also charge extra for tethering. Verizon charges $15 above your data plan, and AT&T's Laptop Connect Plans start at $20 for 5 MB up to $60 for 5 GB. T-Mobile doesn't have a 3G network in the US so they don't count. I don't know about Altel or the various local companies but I'm sure they wouldn't let this cash cow go hungry either.

Sprint's SERO Data only air card plan costs $50, but you need to buy and air card. So maybe AT&T's plan might be better for you, but $10 per month over a 24 month plan is $240 so I guess you can afford a pretty nice air card.

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Well that thread is from way back in 2005, there is no evidence people are getting hit with huge tethering bills as you are saying, there or anywhere else that I can find, and I'm on other forums daily.

So WHY are you MAKING UP stuff that isn't true?????
Just to back up some other second hand rumor you heard from a store employee, that's just ridiculous.

Please refrain from posting Made up "facts", and if that's not the case feel free to back up your claims with some actual proof, that thread sure wasn't.

As I said in my previous post that was "Deleted" for some reason, this sounds like some B.S. RUMOR that you are trying to fuel, feel free to prove me wrong or stop lying about these $1000 bills that you claim people are getting.

One thing is for certain, Sprint's laziness has always been on our side. But that is also why they lost so many customers.

I'm wondering if Sprint's lack of phone choices contributed to people leaving, or was it purely the service?

If that is the case, Sprint needs to implement an online system that allows a customer to register more than one phone with their account and can do their own ESN swaps online at will, whenever they want. That would actually be a better solution than SIM cards, as if you lose your phone with a SIM card, you have to get a new card programmed.

Under the new billing system (Ensemble) ESN swaps can be done online. I have a Samsung M610 as well as my Touch, and am looking forward to being able to switch back and forth depending on which one I want to carry. - sheureka

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go work for radioshack parttime for 3 months and get on sprints employee plan.. i get it free and you get to keep it when you quit as long as you dont upgrade and just buy your phone out either full price or craigslist it which i got my touch for $230 and did an esn swap

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Good Lord Almighty.

Ha Ha I can't believe someone has brought this rumor back up! This one should be posted on Snoops! I've been hearing the same thing for over 4 years now.

I don't tether but I know ones who do and none of them have ever been charged (of course they don't abuse it)

I would think such a policy would nearly be suicidal move for sprint in regards to WM phones. I mean must of us still have sprint because of the cost. I would imagine most would just drop sprint and go to another carrier if they had to get the PAM.


I'll beleive this when users post pictures of their sprint bills, users that have a good rep and that we can trust that is.

Until then, this just another stupid rumor.

I don't tether, but I can ... just in case of an emergency. Last year when we had the earthquake on the Big Island the cable and wired telephone were out for 24 hours. I was one of the few who could still get spam.

'Course when I get an Asus EEE PC or Everex Cloudbook, well ...

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Humm almost a week and no one support this absurd claim.....
Come on Givemealuenski Givemetheproof!

Ok seriously if anyone using PDAnet and under reasonable use conditions has EVER been charged for using Phone As a Modem please contribute and post proof in the form of a sprint bill showing the charges and receipt for PDAnet.

Couple of things... They way SPrint detects data usage is though the NAI
...you have 2 NAI's one is for the normal data services that are used right though your phone..The other is for when you use it as a modem...9 times out of 10 the nai for you modem is the same as you nai for vision service but one slight differance..example...nai@modem.sprint.com....When you
activate your phone as a modem this nai above will kick in tellin sprint network your using it as a modem. There is no way around it unless you
have one of the older phones like Sanyo 9000, Samsung 920 and origanl rom 6700.....

And to the guy who posted and couldnt find a post where there were several thousand dollars charge for using using the phone as a modem.......here you
go
Man Gets an $85,000 Cell Phone Bill for Modem Use : Christopher Null : Yahoo! Tech

I have been working for Sprint for 4 years....and i have seen hundreds of time...and got yelled at for it hundreds of time...it happens man...dont push Sprint...you saw what happend last time when people pushed Sprint
..they fired them as customers LOL