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Old 05-25-2007, 11:48 PM
     
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T-Mobile Wing

has anyone looked at this phone yet? I was just looking at it and i love the way it looks and the fact that it's also GSM...........but i'm debating on hopping to T-Mobile or staying with Sprint for the 6800.

the Wing has WM6
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Yes, just got it and it's lovely. Not a huge upgrade from the MDA, but who needs a huge upgrade to get a new phone!
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hows the software on it? any freezes? whats the memeory like? is it fast? i does have WM6 rite? how is that compared to 5? or the custom roms we have?
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Same Processor as the MDA has made some folks unhappy. I see it is a small upgrade from my MDA and it's been almost a year since a new phone, so I would try anything!

Speed is about the same....an exchange for battery life which is decent for a smartphone.

Yes, WM6. Many of the benefits are tied to Exchange 2007, so those are lost on me. But some things are nice, html email for example. Somewhere on the MS page they have a pdf with all the differences between the two.

I didn't try any of the cooked roms on my MDA, so I can't compare to that. It has some TMO junk, but I removed it (like the OZ IM program).

It is thinner than the MDA and has a nicer feel. Keys are large rectangles like the 8125, compared to the raised button style of the MDA. Some of the hard buttons have changed from the MDA. No more comm mgr or IE, but there is a Windows button and an OK button.

No 3.5 jack! USB only, although I see an adapter on eBay already.
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is the T Mobile Wing supposed to be just like the 6800 kinda like the 6700, 8125, and MDA are all pretty much the same? Hows the battery life? Does it suck like the 6700? Thats the only improvement i need.
 
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I didn't find the MDA sucked, because I realize this isn't a regular cell phone and don't expect the battery to last that long. I also have mine plugged in all day at work, so that helps. So far the Wing has been about the same.
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how is tmobile's service? many dropped calls? I've seen that the plans they offer come with a lot of anytime minutes for way less than sprint.

can u tether with the wing like the 6700 as a modem without them knowing?
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Well i did it............

after 2 years of 6700 use........i jumped off the spint boat and went to t-mobile and got the Tmobile wing.

so far i love it.

i love the rubberiized feel. better grip.......its definately smaller than my trusty 6700..........which i just sold on ebay

i'll keep u posted
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how is tmobile's service? many dropped calls? I've seen that the plans they offer come with a lot of anytime minutes for way less than sprint.

can u tether with the wing like the 6700 as a modem without them knowing?
I had a Sony Eriksson p910i on Tmobile and switched to the xv6700 on Verizon for work. Not only was the Tmobile plan cheaper, but I got far superior reception with the P910i on Tmobile. As soon as I find a new job, I'm planning on dropping Verizon like a bad habit. The XV6700 is a great PDA, but it is a lousy phone. My wife is using my old p910i and I'm so jelous. Her reception is much better than mine. For instance, in my house, I get 1 bar on the XV6700, and often get dropped mid-call. The P910i (which is 3 years old now) gets 5 bars in the basement and has never dropped a call at home. I'm a network consultant who drives all over the city to visit various clients. The XV6700 does not work in 5 or 6 of the client sites where my P910i worked great in all of those places.

Price wise, I'm paying $148 for 1300 mins and internet access with Verizon. When I left T-Mobile, I was paying $120 for 5000 minutes with internet. Even though I left TMo for work, I regret it!
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In the latest Maximum PC magazine, they published the latest coverage maps of the United States and believe or not, T-Mobile has the best coverage now! Better than Cingular, Verizon, and Sprint!

I have always had good reception with T-Mobile regardless of which city I have visited. I even went to Mexico on a mission trip two years ago and while it was expensive to use their Mexican cellular partner, I had no problems with both voice and data access during my week long stay.

INTERNET ON YOUR LAPTOP

As far as utilizing the Wing as an internet device to service a laptop, the Wing actually does it quite well. But they do it differently than the MDA. It took me a call to the Data Team at T-Mobile to figure it out but once they told me I felt stupid that I did not figure it out for myself. Here is how it works:

1) You pair the Wing with the laptop (normal deal, no surprises there). NOTE: If you want to use ActiveSync over bluetooth, initiate the pairing by going into ActiveSync on the Wing and choose sync over Bluetooth. This is the best way to get the pairing to enable ActiveSync over bluetooth.

2) Search for BT devices on your laptop and double click on the Pocket PC (It actually shows up as a "Smart Phone" rather than PDA). You will notice that there is NO Dialup Networking service (don't panic, its okay)

3) Now, from the Wing, go to Accessories to find the icon for Internet Sharing. Execute that and choose bluetooth from the pulldown and the click CONNECT.

4) You should see a new network device on your laptop for Blutooth Network or PAN at 700kb or something like that. You have now created a "PAN" -- Personal Area Network between your Wing and your laptop. The laptop sees your Wing as another networked device in the PAN which serves as your Internet Gateway!

Surf the web! You are good to go!

Notes:
1) you cannot activesync while the PAN is active. But once you disable the Internet Sharing on your Wing, you should be able to initiate an ActiveSync from the Wing over Bluetooth.
2) incoming calls do not shut down the PAN -- it just prevents internet access during the call. Once the call has finished, surfing continues.
3) Internet Sharing must be running for the PAN to function so once it is started, you might want to go to Start->Today to put it in the background. You can do other stuff on the Wing while Internet Sharing is active.

Last thing: use this same program for Internet access while connected via the USB Cable. Just select USB instead of Bluetooth from the Internet Sharing app. When done in this manner, you will see a Bluetooth Network connection on your laptop at 10mb connection speed.

PERFORMANCE

I used the iPaq 6315 and the MDA and I think the Wing actually performs faster than both of them. With the MDA, there was a significant lag time when accessing the calendar from the today screen. On the Wing, it is about 1 second from 'click' to 'display'. Very nice! The keyboard is much nicer to use and you don't have that 'I gotta be careful or its gonna slip from my fingers' feel now.

WM6

There are lots of things with WM6 that I like. Email is definitely better and TMo has a better wizard for setting up email accounts on the device. Also, I find that I do not need a program launcher like Handyswitcher because I can set the OK button to operate the way I like -- to actually close down the program rather than minimize it (and there is a 'stop all' option now).

While there is no Comm Manager button, the Comm Manager is still there and TMO provides a Today plug-in that takes up one line where you can easily bring up the Comm Manager (as well as see the current date). Very handy.

BATTERY LIFE

It seems about the same as the MDA. I use my Wing often throughout the day for phone calls, email, calendaring, and misc stuff from 9AM to 6:30pm without it being on a charger or plugged into USB. The battery indicator never even loses one bar! I am good to go unless I carry on a 1 hour phone conversation or I stay online with Internet Sharing for hours. (If you are going to do Internet Sharing, keep it plugged in).

BTW: if you have the emergency charger thing for your MDA, it will work perfectly with your Wing. The only MDA items that don't work with the Wing are the chargers because the mini-USB is a little off-center so they don't line up. But USB cables and such are good to go

CASES

I hate the case that comes with the Wing. It is just like the standard MDA case. I am patiently waiting for third party vendors to come up with cases for the Wing.

SPEAKER

Mono speaker? What's up with that? Its fine for speakerphone but sucks for music. Stick with your iPod for music unless you want to use the headphone jack that comes with the device which plugs into the USB port. At least they were nice enough to provide a 2-fer jack so you can plug in the headphones AND a charging device.
 
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well as for battery life with the wing...........it definately surpasses the battery life of my 6700..........i can actually go all day without even being nervous of having to recharge.

my 6700 would die around or have like 10-20% life left by 3pm or so...........

just enough juice left to get in my car and hook it to the car charger. i leave home at 6am BTW

but the wing life last 20-30%longer IMO..............doesnt need a charge till almost 6-7pm
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