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Old 08-25-2004, 06:26 PM
     
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Pharos Bluetooth GPS and h6315

I am struggling through trying to get this GPS to work. First problem is that the box says it comes with an AC charger, but it doesn't... just a DC charger. This is the Pharos PT200 Pocket GPS Navigator. This is the i-GPS360 in the Bluetooth dock.

I followed the instructions I found here... http://www.pharosgps.com/support/HP_IPAQ_5400/01.htm

So far haven't gotten it to work. I was able to get it to discover the device. Then when I double click on it, it says that it is connected. Double clicking on it shows no activity sent or received, but a good signal. The bluelight on the GPS stops flashing when it connects.

If I look at Active Connections, it only shows the device on the Outgoing side... not Incoming. Is that Correct? I would think this should be an Incoming device.

When I go into Pharos Ostia on the h6315, and try to start the GPS, it doesn't work. I've set the Comm Port in Ostia to COM8 as directed.

I'm new to Bluetooth... is there something I'm missing?
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Did it set up the connection as a serial COM port? That's what is required for GPS units to function. If not, double check the icon under Bluetooth settings and "discover" the serial COM port service and you should be in business.
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I got it working, but this is strange. I don't see how and where to do what you suggested. What I did was select New, then Explore Bluetooth Device. That was how it set it up. I don't see how to select a Serial Device.

But, if I go into Bluetooth Settings, then the Services Tab, then select Serial, I find info different from what Pharos is saying to setup. It is showing ports COM4 for Inbound Com Port, and COM7 for Outbound Com Port.

I went into Pharos Ostia and changed it to COM4, and it no longer got the error, but still wouldn't light up. I changed it to COM7, and it lit up like a Christmas Tree...

Now I'm going to go for a drive and check it out. Looks like it works.
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Cool, glad you figured it out.

Typically, once you have a pairing, you can just tap on the icon in Paired Devices and it will discover the services provided by the paired device. Then you can set up the device to use those services. I'll try to get some screenshots for you to show what I mean...
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That's essentially what I did. It was really all automatic except that Pharos said (in the link above), that Pocket PC 2003 requires COM8 to be set, and it is really COM7.

I just went for a run around the block and it worked like a charm... although I prefer the Mapopolis software.

I also learned something about WiFi. TURN IT OFF before getting in your car. It picked up about 5 wireless networks in a block and wanted to connect to them. Wouldn't it be cool if someone came up with a way to tie all the personal WiFi networks together and sell them as a service... paying back the people for the time used and keeping a cut... and wrapping everything in a secure layer. That would be cool!
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Yeah, I had the same thing happen to me today also. HP is aware of the "always-on" issue because the company I work for had the same issue with the h4150 when it first came out. They ended up generating a new ROM for the h4150 that included a utility to shut off the "auto-detect and notify" features. I wonder if that same utility would work here... hmmm.... gotta find that utility at work tomorrow!
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Do you guys know what bluetooth GPS receiver is best for this PDA or any PDA? There are lot of them in the market. Also which Maps software is better in complete details of streets. I think we should have a seperate thread for this. What you guys think.
I've this like showing comparisons of some blutetooth GPS receivers, If someone been using any of them should put some thoughts on that.
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/compareomatic/index.php
 
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I have the HP iPAQ Bluetooth Navigation System and it works like a champ. Better yet, HP supports both devices and it is on their "Bluetooth Compatibility Chart" as a compatible system.
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Does it comes with navigation software? What software you have with HP GPS ?
I was looking for "Fortuna Clip-On" It has "SiRF ST/XT Dual Mode" chips normally GPD receivers have SiRF ST. Anyone got one of those?
 
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Well, I haven't used a GPS in quite a while even thought I have like 5 of them now I think. I gave up on trying to do it with my Treo 600 because the lack of multitasking makes it a real drag. I like to have the GPS and navigation going while I'm doing other stuff.

From a software perspective, I've used Pharos Ostia, Mapopolis, and TomTom. Peronally, I like Mapopolis the best. Its routing is very fast, and I believe the map data is better than what Pharos uses. There are two major suppliers of map data, and I've found the one used by Mapopolis and TomTom to be better for my purposes than the one used by Pharos. For what its worth, I think that Mapquest uses what Pharos uses. Pharos and Mapopolis are actually very simliar in there interface. Pharos has a better route generation tool. Mapopolis has better points of interest. Mapopolis has a zillion map options which are very confusing. TomTom is very sophisticated, but I don't really care for the interface. To me, it's too confusing to try and figure out. I want to be able to jump in the car, start the GPS, identify where I'm going, and then have it direct me.

I bought the Pharos Bluetooth GPS package because it was only $199 when you bought a Bluetooth PDA at CompUSA this week. It's regular $349.

I now need to make up a proper audio cable to let me connect the h6135 to my car stereo. What I used to do with the XDA was pretty cool. I played MP3s while the navigation was guiding me. If a phone call came in, it worked through the car stereo. I find the speaker volume on th h6135 too low to use in a car very well. I can barely hear most things. Piping into the car stereo should do the trick.
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another good site for gps info is gpspassion.com. i found there after getting my phone. they have alot of information.

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Which Bluetooth device do you recommend?
 
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I agree that gpspassion is a good site to check the stuff out. I can only recommend the Pharos at the moment because that's the only one I've ever used. I have several of the serial attached GPSs and they all seem to behave about the same for me... I know I have a TomTom and a Pharos. They are interchangable with the software.

One thing kind of nice with the Pharos that I just got is that the GPS itself can be used with different configurations. The GPS receiver itself (i-GPS360) is just this small puck. You can connect it to a USB cable and use it with a laptop, or you can plug it into the Bluetooth dock, or you can plug it into a CF adapter and use it that way. The only thing is that they don't seem to sell the cables separately, but I'm sure you could get them if you called. I don't know if you can use this GPS receiver with standard Y cables from Pharos.
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A couple of corrections on this product. It says on the box that it comes with an AC charger. It does not. It comes with a car charger and a Y cable to allow it to charge the GPS, and a PDA. I was kind of shocked that the PDA charger works with the h6315. You just need to use the charger adapter that came with the h6315 and you are in business.

I had trouble with the GPS yesterday not being able to get good signals from the satelites, and I think it was because the battery was low... will check it out some more to be sure.
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