It's really hard to say. Every phone, headset and patch is unique.
But overall, I'm sending my HS820 back. On PPC-6601 with patch 3500 Audio is clear but has too long a delay waking up. With Build 3100 it wakes up instantly but gets audio dropouts.
For the time I ran it on H6315 with 3100 it behaved ok. But it was not long.
I would try Build 3100.
I don't think the audio on the HS820 is that great on any phone.
So you tried the Pda2k BT patch on the h6315 and it worked? I mean, except for the issues you mentioned?
Thats good to know. I have it on my desktop now and am not sure about how to install it. Or better yet, where to install it. I am taking a guess by saying I should install it into the windows folder. Any help is appreciated.. Thanks..
Well, I spoke with TMo PDA support last night. The gentleman I spoke with said they received an email last week stating that the Bluetooth patch is about 15 to 20 days from release.
I truly hope he was telling the truth, and not trying to blow smoke up my ***!
I really like this device. The three things that would make it as close to perfect as possible (for me personally) would be:
1. Bluetooth fixed
2. Less lockups requiring a soft reset
3. IR Remote control that works with the processor and IRDA
Originally posted by mswlogo DON'T install PDA2K patch on your phone as is. It will hose it.
Read the other threads for a modified patch.
Read closely too, some good results some not.
Thanks.. I will just wait for the Tmo patch. Better safe than sorry anyway. Besides, I am still waiting for the Nextlink Bluespoon 5g BT headset, which I hope I will get a beta test version of this month, so there is no rush as long as they get me the patch by sometime this month..
I hope I hope it will include support for the Advanced Audio profile, so I can finally get rid of the little dongle I use with the Bluetake headphones.
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Originally posted by korbek Well, I spoke with TMo PDA support last night. The gentleman I spoke with said they received an email last week stating that the Bluetooth patch is about 15 to 20 days from release.
I truly hope he was telling the truth, and not trying to blow smoke up my ***!
I really like this device. The three things that would make it as close to perfect as possible (for me personally) would be:
1. Bluetooth fixed
2. Less lockups requiring a soft reset
3. IR Remote control that works with the processor and IRDA
Works great so far, pretty accurate.
In the beginning I had a hard time to pair it, the user manual is not too clear about the initial procedure. I typed my own procedure for dummies, it's available for everyone, just contact me and I send it by email. eduardo_silva_7@hotmail.com
I have had this 6315 POS for about a week now. I can't believe that they are selling such a worthless piece of crap. I have been on the telehone with TMOBILE and HP for hours.T-Mobile finally admitted to me that there are massive issuse with this phone and that any upcoming patch would "Have to be a miracle patch as it has too many problems to be fixed by a single patch."
Anyone who has the 6315 through T-Mobile should complain until they get a refund. I managed to get them to allow me to "Try it out for 2.5 months" to determine if it's going to work or not. I've had it a week and I want to throw it out the window.
This machine is the biggest waste of time and money that I've seen in a very long time. I hope that everyone can get an exchange or a refund. This thing is never going to work properly.
Originally posted by johnannie I have had this 6315 POS for about a week now. I can't believe that they are selling such a worthless piece of crap. I have been on the telehone with TMOBILE and HP for hours.T-Mobile finally admitted to me that there are massive issuse with this phone and that any upcoming patch would "Have to be a miracle patch as it has too many problems to be fixed by a single patch."
Anyone who has the 6315 through T-Mobile should complain until they get a refund. I managed to get them to allow me to "Try it out for 2.5 months" to determine if it's going to work or not. I've had it a week and I want to throw it out the window.
This machine is the biggest waste of time and money that I've seen in a very long time. I hope that everyone can get an exchange or a refund. This thing is never going to work properly.
Calm down before you rupture a nerve. Its really not that bad. It's always wise and helpful to state what your specific problems are with the device. You can get more issues solved by asking questions in this forum than T-Mo or HP can offer you.
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Wow, you made up your mind quickly. I keep mine for the 2-week trial period and then took it back--now I'm having second thoughts because despite it's faults, it did work as a PDA and it did work as a phone. If they get the Bluetooth to work with Acura's HandsFree Link, I will be back.
Originally posted by johnannie I have had this 6315 POS for about a week now. I can't believe that they are selling such a worthless piece of crap. I have been on the telehone with TMOBILE and HP for hours.T-Mobile finally admitted to me that there are massive issuse with this phone and that any upcoming patch would "Have to be a miracle patch as it has too many problems to be fixed by a single patch."
Anyone who has the 6315 through T-Mobile should complain until they get a refund. I managed to get them to allow me to "Try it out for 2.5 months" to determine if it's going to work or not. I've had it a week and I want to throw it out the window.
This machine is the biggest waste of time and money that I've seen in a very long time. I hope that everyone can get an exchange or a refund. This thing is never going to work properly.
Is it safe to assume that you have no prior experience with a Pocket PC, let alone the phone version? It simply isn't that easy to use and it isn't a laptop replacement. Since you were so specific in your rant, I guess we can't really help you in your particular problem areas. Try reposting with some specific issues and let the folks here try to work with you... I guarantee we are better than the tech support you have come across.
Originally posted by jpmihalk Is it safe to assume that you have no prior experience with a Pocket PC, let alone the phone version? It simply isn't that easy to use and it isn't a laptop replacement. Since you were so specific in your rant, I guess we can't really help you in your particular problem areas. Try reposting with some specific issues and let the folks here try to work with you... I guarantee we are better than the tech support you have come across.
Well put. However, I do have empathy for JohnAnnie because I honestly am feeling the same way. I am not a veteran with the PPC, so when I started having issues with the 6315 I started asking for help and trying to figure out things. I have learned a lot, however, some things just are messed up about the device and I have been waiting since August for them to be fixed.
My 6315 locks up in different apps at different times for no apparent reason and with no consistency with which to try and discover why its doing it. It will lock up when I use the phone, it will lock up in sleep mode, it will freeze up on the today screen, and the only thing it still consistently does is locks up when I open an Inbox message and have either windows media or phone open also and click "OK" at the top of the screen and it tries to go back to the app open and it locks up. I know that was a hell of a lot to type in one run-on sentence and I hope it was understandable. I have to do a minimum of 3 soft resets a day.. I miss calls because of it also.
MS Voice Command will sometimes simply not work???? The device won't freeze up, VC just wont work? I do another soft reset and it works again. Don't know why and don't know if its MS Voice Command, but the other apps work consistently, unless the device freezes.
Also, I have the newest XIP upgrade and Touchfix installed. The only thing that consistently works well on the device is internet browsing.. I have to say that it works well. The speakerphone, worthless, and I don't know if firmware can fix it. Seems like its just a real cheap, rattly speaker. Phone RF is mediocre at best. Signal strength is worse than my wives free samsung cheapo phone she dropped in the toilet (No Joke). What gets me is that I used to own a Samsung I330 before this device and its RF and Speaker phone quality was top notch. And thats a 3 year old device! I thought the quality of the basics would only improve, not regress.
Also, I have tried over and over again to get Tmo to get on the ball about these issues and this is my third h6315 since August. I simply gave up trying for a better replacement.
I forgot to mention the main problem, and the point of this thread, the BT still does not work. I bought this pda phone, knowing how bulky it is, to use BT headset for calls and have it in a nice case on my belt so I would not have to hold this block to my ear. So far I have gone through two BT headsets and discovered the BT issue and returned them and have not used one since. I got the nice case, just not able to use the headset.
Sorry if I rambled on and on.... Anybody want to buy an HP h6315 with a Sena Case?? LOL
Originally posted by Alphamale I have owned other pda phones. the 6315 is one of the best. And the most stable compared to other phones.
WHAT?? I'm trying to figure out whether you are being sarcastic or serious. I know opinions vary but...The 6315 doesn't even come close to OK. I'm truly amazed and shocked. I'm sure everyone else here is.
Definitely the stability part of your comment is...
For the benefit of my curiousity and amazement could you please enlighten us/me on what other PDA's you've used that have led you to rank the 6315 so high and also what apps you use with your 6315 that enable such stability.
Please don't be offended by my shock and reaction towards your remark. It's just that I've never heard such high praise for this device even from its greatest enthusiasts.
Thanks
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I think it's obvious that Alphamale is a double agent working for HP, sent to infiltrate the discussion forums and put the kibosh on any derogatory remarks about the h6315.
I agree with johnannie. And returned mine on the last day of trial. I probably would have kept it if not for Sprint PPC-6601 (which has issues too, the worst being beep of death).
H6315:
CPU Slow. Really slow.
Speaker in rear, what were they thinking. Makes Voice Command really a lot less attractive as well as GPS Directions Announcements.
Phone/PDA hung all the time. Often when switching Networks Wifi to GPRS or back.
GPRS so slow it was really painful to surf. Mail/AIM was fine.
T-Mobile Phone coverage (Boston MetroWest) was horrible. Part of this is the phone itself. It's not a great GSM phone. This was the main reason I returned it.
GSM can't switch towers when moving worth squat. Drops GPRS Data or GSM call excessively while driving.
Front Speaker (ear piece) had poor audio.
Bluetooth was broken like other PDA phones (didn't know at the time).
I run memory map navigator, and ozi explorer. Other standard softwares like MS money, excel, and word. You need to use a PDA for what it is intended to do in order to be satisfied.
I used to have a qutek 1010 and I am glad it was stolen. After that I bought i-mate. If you want to know what crap is, try to own one of those i-mates.
Please note that I am not saying it is good compared to an expectation, I am saying it is the best and most stable PDA phone that I have used.
HP is the worst company in terms to support, and I got this one as a gift otherwise I don't deal with them, but that is not good enogh not to express my experiance with the 6315.
Give me thename of other product that is as stable as this pda, or a one that comes close in terms of battery life.
Uh, oh.... here we go. Opened up a can of worms, we have.
I was one of the first on the h6315 bandwagon. At the time it came out it was the only PDAphone with WiFi/BT/cell data connectivity. When the PDA2k became available, I moved to it. Why? More RAM, unlocked, 2003SE.
The h6315 is no different from most of my other PDAs. (And I currently have 11.) I am very tough on them (especially since I test them for a living.) The h6315 has a slow processor. The battery life is outstanding, especially when using WiFi, but it has connectivity issues with WiFi. It seems that everything about it is a tradeoff.
Now I am switching between using my PDA2k (which has had its problems but is more stable than the h6315) and using an hx4700 iPAQ with my BT-enabled v600 (so I can unconverge when necessary.) The hx4700 has a very nice utility to set up BT DUN with all kinds of BT cell phones and it works VERY reliably. I also like the VGA screen.
But hey, to each their own. We all work in different areas, play in different places and have different needs. I understand the frustrations with all of these devices. Why do you think there are still so few of them out there? It isn't for everyone.
What I don't care for is when people just register to complain without giving a specific beef other than "it is a piece of crap." That's not very informative nor helpful to anyone. It also doesn't allow for any assistance, which is why we are all here.
Personally I think the battery issue of the 6315 is an illusion. I use my IPAQ just as much as I used my XDA with WM2003. I've had 5 of the 6315's in the past six months. None of them last a day on a full charge with my usage. My XDA used to last for at most 48hrs with intensive use.
Yeah! Just using this thing as a PIM will let the battery last for hours and hours but due to the low processor play any graphic intensive games or apps and the load on the processor runs down the battery in minutes. With my original XDA, the processor was faster but could still handle graphic intensive apps and the impact on the battery was barely noticeable.
At this stage in the 6315's life I don't really think people need to explain why they hate it. Enough of people like me already do that. This device was a major rip-off. The onlyreason I bought it was because it was the only PPCPE with bluetooth and wifi from T-Mobile, which apparently has the best service in my region.
Out of 5 stars I'd give this puppy a 1, which is pretty good for a first generation device.
Qualcomm/Kyocera made such a device when they were one of the first to fully integrate a hybrid phone with their PDQ series. It was a great device for its time but highly unstable but then they got it right the next time aroung with the QCP6035 and then on.
So maybe HP will get it right the next time around. Just maybe...
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