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Great moments in converged communications!

I am starting this thread to learn how others use a converged device. I will start with my story:

1. I have had a G1000 for a bit over 1 week.
2. I took the phone with me for the Thanksgiving trip to my mom's house. (I live in central Ohio, Mom lives in South Carolina.)
3. My wife wants to split the return drive into two days and stay over night at a hotel with a heated, in-door pool.
4. My mom is not "on-line" ... has no computer in the house.
5. I go to mobile.google.com
6. enter: I-77 west virgina hotel
7. I browse to the Country Inn in Beckley WV. (Google returned tons of these "quicky reservation" websites.
8. Redo search for Country Inn and use the corporate website to find the Beckley hotel.
9. I select the phone number, and hit the tools -> call tel
10. Made a reservation!

This was very cool and exactly why I wanted a converged phone.

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Man that's awesome. Its cool to see we're all getting something out of all this.
Mine has been great to me on plane rides playing pocketnester, landing in the airport and checking email, getting all the news weather where I'm at, sports scores with Journal Bar and maybe chatting with AOL IM. Then when I get to the jobsite use Microsoft Excel and calculations with the calculater. Then I make a phone call....absolutely crazy how we can do all this stuff with these PPC units.
If I get lost in a strange city all I have to do is take Pocket Streets 04 and look at my downloaded map....damn thats allot

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my moment was on saturday. Ecost.com had a 512 mb sd card for 144.00. I was at work and was able to order it right there with my G. By the way they still have that deal along with a 10.00 rebate! Now if only I could pay bills on my bank website. Stupid PIE browser is not secure enough so bank doesn't give me access.
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try thuderhawk! i can log into bank fo america just fine!

sears had a sale on the 512 MB card for 99 bux...

i have bought stuff on fleabay with this thing...

using MS portrait, i can view my studio from anywhere and hear audio....

snapping pics and sending them...


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Now if only I could pay bills on my bank website. Stupid PIE browser is not secure enough so bank doesn't give me access.
My second converged moment was using my G1000 to check my bank transaction list for a failed ATM transaction. While I was in South Carolina, I tried to use an ATM at a Walmart to pick up some cash. The machine made lots of noise, but did not give out any money. The slip had "incomplete transaction" on it. The next day, I used the G1000 to check my transaction list and the ATM transaction did not show up. My wife was impressed! (She usually rolls her eyes when I tell her my technology "stories", but since this one was about "our" money, she got the point!)
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So one of the other questions is: are converged devices just another form of Swiss Army knife? (May be able to do many things, but none of them as good as a dedicated tool.)

1. Do you use your device as a PDA that happens to be a phone? or as a phone that has PDA capabilities?

2. Do you ever use the voice and PDA function together? (Dialing by scraping a phone number on a web page.)

3. What other functions would an idea converged device have?
(Why can't the GPS capability already in the G1000 be used for PDA applications?)

To me, the device spectrum runs from PDA only to phone only.

PDA only -> PDA/phone -> smartphone -> phone only

My choice of the G1000 was based on my PDA use verses phone use and my desire to elliminate one extra device/charger from my travel setup. I previously used a PDA with WiFi. I found that most of the places that I really need to access information, I could not access a WiFi network to do it. (Airports, most hotels, etc.) The current Sprint vision plan makes the G1000 a very viable data access device and that out-weighed the issues of limited memory and older operating system. The battery life of the G1000 as a PDA is miles better that the battery life of my previous device when networking. Sizewise, it is only slightly thicker and less than 1/2 an inch longer.
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try thuderhawk! i can log into bank fo america just fine!

sears had a sale on the 512 MB card for 99 bux...

i have bought stuff on fleabay with this thing...

using MS portrait, i can view my studio from anywhere and hear audio....

snapping pics and sending them...


too mush to list!!
Someone always finds a better deal than me. lol. Thunderhawk costs money and I am too cheap to pay subscription on top of data and wireless minutes.
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sears had a sale on the 512 MB card for 99 bux...
dude you rock! i happend to be sitting here with a buddy that works at sears when i read this. i went to the website and sure enough found the sandisk 512MB SD card for $99. well since he works there we ordered 2 of them with his employee discount. 2 of those beauties should be in his store in the next 6 to 8 days for the sum of $195.73.

you made two guys very happy today because neither one of us could justify spending more than $100 on a new memory card when we both have perfectly good 256 cards.

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Sears would be the last place I would have thought to look. I went to the site and said all sold out. Well I guess Sears has more than appliances anymore. Looks like you saved 42.00 bucks over me Dumwaldo. More with your friends discount. I would have thought since they make these for business people that paying bills online with them and such would be very easy. I can view my bank balance and account activity but I can't pay bills. I also can not view any info on my Capitol one account. I was suprised I could do a credit card order at ecost.com. I may do the trial for thunderhawk but it better be darn good for the cost.
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OH MY LORD you are a GOD, my Sears has 8 in stock!!! I'm going down NOW to get one!!!
 
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NCC, you can order it to be delivered to your local store.
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ok, got my 512 Megger from Sears, they had them in stock! more importantly, it is a price mistake, look on sears site and it is 199 with 100 sandisk rebate!!! So I can still send in the rebate and will have MADE a buck on the deal!!!!!!
 
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So one of the other questions is: are converged devices just another form of Swiss Army knife? (May be able to do many things, but none of them as good as a dedicated tool.)

1. Do you use your device as a PDA that happens to be a phone? or as a phone that has PDA capabilities?

2. Do you ever use the voice and PDA function together? (Dialing by scraping a phone number on a web page.)

3. What other functions would an idea converged device have?
(Why can't the GPS capability already in the G1000 be used for PDA applications?)

To me, the device spectrum runs from PDA only to phone only.

PDA only -> PDA/phone -> smartphone -> phone only

My choice of the G1000 was based on my PDA use verses phone use and my desire to elliminate one extra device/charger from my travel setup. I previously used a PDA with WiFi. I found that most of the places that I really need to access information, I could not access a WiFi network to do it. (Airports, most hotels, etc.) The current Sprint vision plan makes the G1000 a very viable data access device and that out-weighed the issues of limited memory and older operating system. The battery life of the G1000 as a PDA is miles better that the battery life of my previous device when networking. Sizewise, it is only slightly thicker and less than 1/2 an inch longer.
1. I think this device is a PDA first then a phone. I feel that its abilities as a PDA are very good, the phone part is just ok.

2. I use this all the time.

3. I wish the phone a built-in GPS also.

3b. The GPS functions that are built into the phone are not meant to continually send your location data to the phone. This service using the GPS thing in your phone in addition to tower data to determine location. This data is then sent to the sprint system then to E911. Also in the future this my be used to send you adds based on your location.
 
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dude you rock! i happend to be sitting here with a buddy that works at sears when i read this. i went to the website and sure enough found the sandisk 512MB SD card for $99. well since he works there we ordered 2 of them with his employee discount. 2 of those beauties should be in his store in the next 6 to 8 days for the sum of $195.73.

you made two guys very happy today because neither one of us could justify spending more than $100 on a new memory card when we both have perfectly good 256 cards.

thanks
glad i could help! you have helped me in the past so i am glad i could pas on the good holiday cheer~!!

NCC, i feel you.. re: subscription... i need TH though so i am gonna drop down the cash....
 
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DAMN the rebate is gone, should have printed it!!! Oh well, STILL an unbelieveable buy at $99, plus no shipping as my local Sears had them in stock!!!
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OK, I'm going to get this thread back on track... here's my moment of greatness.

We are on a field trip with a class of 9th graders, tooling up I-95 just outside of Washington DC. We got delayed in DC and ended up deciding to eat on the way back to NY rather than in the city. The driver was talking rest area food, but the parents put our heads together and decided we'd rather eat at a Cracker Barrel. Only problem, according to the guide, was that he didn't know where one was. I pulled out the Treo 600 (hey, that's the pdaPhone I had with me on that trip... ) and all of the other parents didn't realize what I was doing. In a matter of a few minutes I went to the Cracker Barrel site and used their restaurant locater to find the closest Cracker Barrel to our path. I hit the dial button and had them on the phone in a few seconds. I then handed the phone to the guide and she said what's this???? I said, "this is where we are eating, she'll tell you how to get there.... ". As the mouth dropped open, she listened and then told the driver what to do. All the parents were kind of stuck wondering what just happened, but happy we weren't eating at the rest area.
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1. I think this device is a PDA first then a phone. I feel that its abilities as a PDA are very good, the phone part is just ok.

2. I use this all the time.

3. I wish the phone a built-in GPS also.
I agree with all of your comments. My biggest issue with my previous PDA and wireless (WiFi) access was battery life. One of my co-workers uses an iPaq with a PCMCIA sleeve with an extra battery. The combination is bigger than the G1000, and still has shorter battery life. (Yes, when he is in a WiFi zone, it is faster data transfer, but I have better coverage with the Sprint network!) This really makes the G1000 more than a PDA, because of the web access from anywhere. All of my convergance moments occur because of the data access. Right now, I can leave the G in high speed mode and go a whole day of voice/data access and still have 60% of my battery left!

The GPS part of this phone is still a mystery to me. I would really like to see the hardware details for this phone to understand what is possible. Like the SDIO, is the necessary connection there and it is only a matter of writing a software driver for access? Or, is the GPS truly isolated from the PDA part of the device?

Since I work in research for multimedia/multimodal dialog applications, I am keenly interested in the availability of other aspects like access to the voice channels and call control features. It would be great to be able to replace the phone application, etc. with alternates to explore some interesting areas involving speech recognition/generation technology.

I was initially hesitant to purchase the G1000 because of the price and the fact that the PDA hardware had small memory and no SDIO. The battery life and large coverage of the data network more than makes up for these faults.
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Convergence Rules!!

I have had several sweet converged moments including the Cracker Barrel experience!

The biggest money saver came when we were booked into a hotel for 2 nights and they informed us that the 2nd night would go from the $99/day to $179/day because of an NFL home game. I went to my room and used the G1000 as a modem with my laptop. Accessed hotels.com, found a great room for $79/day just 6 miles up the road. For confirmation I used my PCS email address. I received the SMS notice that I had email, I accessed my PCS mail on the "G" to ensure that I had confirmation including directions to the new hotel. Sweet

I often attend conf calls for work. Having the phone number in the calendar that you can cut and paste into the phone is sooo sweet! I had to have a 3rd party app to do that on my old I300.

I also use it for entertainment (Pocketnester and the builtin Solitaire), email (PCS and BCPE), and work stuff (Movian client to access the company Intranet sites).

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Gotcha all beat.

1. Went out into the field to take measurements. hour drive or so.

2. Got there, didn't know which measurements had been taken, which hadn't.

3. Called the office, had a coworker email me the excel file I had made 2 weeks ago upon returning from the field the last time.

4. Opened the excel file, noted I hadn't taken the measurements, and proceeded to take them and update the excel file on the G.

5. Noted an odd noise, recorded it with the G, and took a picture of the source (I'm an acoustician).

6. Emailed the excel file and the picture back to my office email.

7. Drove home, opened all files, and was off to the races.

Now, if I could just deal with this damn hard reset...
 
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New cool moment ... on my way to my local office holiday lunch. I was not driving, but we thought we knew where the restaurant was, but we were wrong. I pulled out the G1000, went to www.google.com/palm and entered "Columbus Fish Market". A couple more clicks, and I was looking at a map.
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