I didn't mind living without features I had on the mogul. I thought it was a good trade for what the iPhone added.
My coverage driving to work around home was worse than sprint. My wife was way worse at work. It would work near a Window but not at her desk without it being garbled. The sprint phone would work in her pocketbook INSIDE a all steel desk.
The plans were so much cheaper too. With no special discounts from either. Sprint was 30% cheaper (almost 50% cheaper with SERO which fairly easy to get).
AT&T Family plan of 2 phones 550 minutes, data, nights start at 7 is $117.00
Sprint Family plan of 2 phones 550 minutes, data, nights start at 7 is $80.00
Sprint SERO 2 phones 500+500 minutes, data, nights start at 7 is $60.00
I noticed if I got 4 bars or less on the iPhone the conversation was often garbled. 4 Bars according to Field Test is a poor signal level. I think AT&T really rigs there meters to give you a false impression of good signal.
I was also told by a friend that another third party found AT&T to be the worst for dropped calls. And the thridparty that supplied the data that AT&T quotes as "fewest dropped calls" has requested AT&T stop misrepresenting the data.
AT&T was pretty nasty when I said I was returning the iPhone. They didn't know I swapped the phone and extended the return date by doing so (thank god I did). I told them that but they still ensisted I could not return it. I did and I didn't even pay restocking fee. Two AT&T blurted this out with out my really asking.
One other nasty is. When I returned my wifes Razor I didn't want to cancel the line until I got the # ported back. So he said sure keep the SIM card. But when I returned the iPhone Apple refused. So they still have my Activated SIM card which is wrong. That card is ME (my line) which is not canceled yet.
This SIM thing make me very uncomforable too. I think because Apple is getting a cut there are no discounts at all. And to keep things locked they are violating the normal protocal with SIM cards.
I also found new Moguls on Ebay for $99.00 with contract and new line. Since I have to create a new line I qualify. I won't mind paying full price for the next phone that replaces Mogul.
One other thing that drove me insane on iPhone is. It's supposed to be the best "iPod" (an audio device) yet it's very impolite to audio devices around it because of GSM.
This was insane. More money, poor Voice reliability and made computers, TV's and car radios go nuts. Not all the time but it shouldn't at all.
None of the issues above could get fixed with a software update.
I'll be watching for a CDMA or V2 or V3 of iPhone. Apple (the engineers did a great job). The Marketing guys that cut the deal with AT&T didn't.
I gave my ppc 6700 a day out just to see what it 'used to be like'. The phone, web browser (the real web is so friggen huge for me), big screen, and better coverage with the iPhone made it easy to give my ppc 6700 to my girlfriend at the end of that day.
There are just SOO many trade offs between this iPhone and other phones. For me I prefer the tradeoffs of the iPhone.
Best of luck back with Sprint. Enjoy that Mogul and the coverage! I know that coverage is always a deal breaker... why settle for a potential struggle every time you need to use your phone?
Hate to see you leave but yet I understand . Phone comes first, IF you cannot get service when you really NEED it what's the use in having a Titanuim Coated Stealth iPhone !!!!!. In your case I would go as far as saying even IF Apple did everything on your wish list THEY still cannot FIX AT&T's crappy GSM low frequency transmission codec mess.
I do wish you the best, please visit us here often and lend us your cranium when needed. IF you wanted to switch to VZW I have a Treo 700P and a MotoQ Black in perfect condition
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Funny it worked.....the last time!!Now I am not sure what was working before they put a hole in my head!!!!
It's understandable that with your experiences you'd have to go to another carrier. I've found none of those issues (I have great coverage, zero drops so far, and no speaker noise at all), but certainly every city has different coverage levels with every carrier.
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You gotta do what you gotta do man. There are certain things I def do miss about sprint. Night and weekends starting at 6, plan was a bit cheaper. I don't know if I would go back to the Mogul, but thats just my opinion. 6600 or 6700 maybe. Its always something though man. The iPhone and AT&T Def arent perfect, neither are sprint or their phones. It all boils down to what works for you. If you do go back to the mogul, let us know how the updates go on the phone.
I didn't mind living without features I had on the Mogul. I thought it was a good trade for what the iPhone added.
My coverage driving to work around home was worse than sprint. My wife was way worse at work. It would work near a Window but not at her desk without it being garbled. The sprint phone would work in her pocketbook INSIDE a all steel desk.
The plans were so much cheaper too. With no special discounts from either. Sprint was 30% cheaper <...>
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Too bad about the AT&T reception, I always thought that AT&T had the best coverage, but maybe that was back in the old analog TDMA days. I get great reception on my iPhone everywhere I have tried it, can't tell a difference from Sprint.
One option you have, and this is the one I have decided on, is to have both the iPhone *AND* the Mogul. I had ordered a Mogul about a week before the iPhone came out, thinking there was no way I was switching to AT&T after 10 years with Sprint. Well, after a brief hands-on with the iPhone, my master plan went out the window
I went ahead and returned my Mogul and had my master number ported over to AT&T from Sprint, that way I had my number that everyone knows on the iPhone. Then I reordered another Mogul on a new SERO line, where the phone was $288, and I got the $30 plan (450 anytime, U/L everything else plus data). The Mogul is basically going to be my Sirius, XM, Orb, SlingPlayer, etc device - all the things the iPhone can't do. For $1/day, I can handle that, so I don't lose the EVDO and multimedia stuff.
I can forward my main number from the iPhone to the Mogul, using whichever device and service I feel I need at the time. It does use minutes off both phones when I forward, but no biggie since I'm not a big talker and always have a ton of minutes left over.
This might not be an option for you and your wife, but for me it works great and I get to have the best of both worlds! Plus, with the Rev A and GPS upgrades coming out for the Mogul, I wasn't ready to abandon Sprint just yet.
I'm going crazy with this and my wife is ready to throw all the phones out the window.
I really consider this switch a long term Network choice first and foremost and even if the iPhone wasn't perfect the next iPhone will be better. But I couldn't see how GSM could compete with CDMA long term. But after a LOT of reading and understanding I can see it does compete well (long term).
After reading some info on hofo I learned that AT&T plays games quality of service. So I bought back my wifes Moto V3xx phone todo some testing. The V3xx can be modified to bypass some AT&T network issues. I can even force it to run on 3G which doesn't buzz the radios and call quality is much better on 3G. So I need my wife to test it out (at here work) in a few different modes before I decide what to do.
I'm also considering having both (wife on Sprint and myself on AT&T). This gets expensive on mobile to mobile though.
It was my wife not getting service that put me over the edge. If I can fix that there is some hope.
I was working on an airplane last week and solving the issue brought up a thought that "might" affect your signal issues. I did a little test and confirmed there is room for suspicion.
When you were in the car and getting poor reception, were you always on battery power or did you try both battery and with a charge line hooked to it?
I am the first to admit that I don't know what all the info on Field Test means. I think I could logically conclude certain answers, but there is a difference between knowing and assuming. Anyway, I know that on some of the field tests, I get some different numbers based on whether the phone is on battery power or plugged into a USB port. I don't know if it's better or worse. I just know change happens.
I was working on an airplane last week and solving the issue brought up a thought that "might" affect your signal issues. I did a little test and confirmed there is room for suspicion.
When you were in the car and getting poor reception, were you always on battery power or did you try both battery and with a charge line hooked to it?
I am the first to admit that I don't know what all the info on Field Test means. I think I could logically conclude certain answers, but there is a difference between knowing and assuming. Anyway, I know that on some of the field tests, I get some different numbers based on whether the phone is on battery power or plugged into a USB port. I don't know if it's better or worse. I just know change happens.
The RX -nn is the most important. The lower the number the better. -50db is perfect and your probably standing next to a tower. Above -100db is pretty poor signal. -80db or better (towards 0) is very good. You'll get 5 bars if you have -80db or better.
My guess it the signal improved because the cord acts as an antenna. I've read other people saying when docked at home it's good and then they pick it up and no signal.
I was on Battery the whole time.
On former sprint phones I used a ProClip and if I put it in the clip (power or not) I'd NEVER lose a call. If it was in my pocket I did have two dead spots.
I have wedged the iPhone into the ProClip and it is better there. But it's very close to the radio. And the radio is very unhappy with it. I've also tried it face down on dashboard for good antenna exposure. That again the phone likes but the radio really hates. If I put it on passengenger seat face down it's so so and I can't see display if I need to. So to get best usage I hold upside down in my left hand near the window. It works best there.
I'm sure powered proclip will come along but again the radio really hates it. It may be the stations I like.
I'm hoping someone will come up with a case that boosts the antenna. I can almost guarantee someone will. Maybe even electrically tap into the phones antenna rather than couple to it.
I tried a Motoroloa V3xx phone one more time with AT&T with Mods to force Full Rate codec (just to see if it was Network vs iPhone) and still no luck, it's the network. I think I tried hard than your average Joe to make it work.
Anyway the good news is I learned about SERO from sprint. See initial post, I updated cost differences. And since Data is free on SERO I got my wife a PDA phone too.
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. Phone comes first, IF you cannot get service when you really NEED it what's the use in having a Titanuim Coated Stealth 
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