I didn't mind living without features I had on the mogul. I thought it was a good trade for what the iPhone added.

My coverage driving to work around home was worse than sprint. My wife was way worse at work. It would work near a Window but not at her desk without it being garbled. The sprint phone would work in her pocketbook INSIDE a all steel desk.

The plans were so much cheaper too. With no special discounts from either. Sprint was 30% cheaper (almost 50% cheaper with SERO which fairly easy to get).

AT&T Family plan of 2 phones 550 minutes, data, nights start at 7 is $117.00
Sprint Family plan of 2 phones 550 minutes, data, nights start at 7 is $80.00
Sprint SERO 2 phones 500+500 minutes, data, nights start at 7 is $60.00

I noticed if I got 4 bars or less on the iPhone the conversation was often garbled. 4 Bars according to Field Test is a poor signal level. I think AT&T really rigs there meters to give you a false impression of good signal.

I was also told by a friend that another third party found AT&T to be the worst for dropped calls. And the thridparty that supplied the data that AT&T quotes as "fewest dropped calls" has requested AT&T stop misrepresenting the data.

AT&T was pretty nasty when I said I was returning the iPhone. They didn't know I swapped the phone and extended the return date by doing so (thank god I did). I told them that but they still ensisted I could not return it. I did and I didn't even pay restocking fee. Two AT&T blurted this out with out my really asking.

One other nasty is. When I returned my wifes Razor I didn't want to cancel the line until I got the # ported back. So he said sure keep the SIM card. But when I returned the iPhone Apple refused. So they still have my Activated SIM card which is wrong. That card is ME (my line) which is not canceled yet.

This SIM thing make me very uncomforable too. I think because Apple is getting a cut there are no discounts at all. And to keep things locked they are violating the normal protocal with SIM cards.

I also found new Moguls on Ebay for $99.00 with contract and new line. Since I have to create a new line I qualify. I won't mind paying full price for the next phone that replaces Mogul.

One other thing that drove me insane on iPhone is. It's supposed to be the best "iPod" (an audio device) yet it's very impolite to audio devices around it because of GSM.

This was insane. More money, poor Voice reliability and made computers, TV's and car radios go nuts. Not all the time but it shouldn't at all.

None of the issues above could get fixed with a software update.

I'll be watching for a CDMA or V2 or V3 of iPhone. Apple (the engineers did a great job). The Marketing guys that cut the deal with AT&T didn't.

Welcome back to PPCLand

Wow I posted the exact post above on Apple iPhone forums and they deleted it.

I thought it was fairly objective.

I gave it a hard try, really hard try and other potential buyers should be able to read about it.

Sorry you had such a bad experience with it .

I gave my ppc 6700 a day out just to see what it 'used to be like'. The phone, web browser (the real web is so friggen huge for me), big screen, and better coverage with the iPhone made it easy to give my ppc 6700 to my girlfriend at the end of that day.

There are just SOO many trade offs between this iPhone and other phones. For me I prefer the tradeoffs of the iPhone.

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It was my wife not being able to use her AT&T phone at work that put me over the edge.

Understandable. What good is a phone if you can't get coverage in your area with it?

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Best of luck back with Sprint. Enjoy that Mogul and the coverage! I know that coverage is always a deal breaker... why settle for a potential struggle every time you need to use your phone?

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Hate to see you leave but yet I understand . Phone comes first, IF you cannot get service when you really NEED it what's the use in having a Titanuim Coated Stealth iPhone !!!!!. In your case I would go as far as saying even IF Apple did everything on your wish list THEY still cannot FIX AT&T's crappy GSM low frequency transmission codec mess.
I do wish you the best, please visit us here often and lend us your cranium when needed.
IF you wanted to switch to VZW I have a Treo 700P and a MotoQ Black in perfect condition

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Funny it worked.....the last time!!Now I am not sure what was working before they put a hole in my head!!!!

It's understandable that with your experiences you'd have to go to another carrier. I've found none of those issues (I have great coverage, zero drops so far, and no speaker noise at all), but certainly every city has different coverage levels with every carrier.

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You gotta do what you gotta do man. There are certain things I def do miss about sprint. Night and weekends starting at 6, plan was a bit cheaper. I don't know if I would go back to the Mogul, but thats just my opinion. 6600 or 6700 maybe. Its always something though man. The iPhone and AT&T Def arent perfect, neither are sprint or their phones. It all boils down to what works for you. If you do go back to the mogul, let us know how the updates go on the phone.