my personal fav about going Droid over iPhone... WONT HAVE TO FREAKIN JAILBREAK ANYMORE!!

So sick of JB version 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 etc... wiping info, reinstall, then reinstalling the reinstalled apps that didn't reinstall correctly... hours on end wasted.

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iPhone 3G (sorry Sprint, I have been to the mountain top!) <-- Sprint Mogul PPC 6800 (not enough memory) <-- PPC 6700 (loaner from sprint) <-- PPC 6600 (no EVDO) <-- G1000 (no SMS) Cardo Scala-500 BT
I'm rockin Verizon Fios baby! 20Mbs is dumb fast! http://www.speedtest.net/result/295783856.png

Hmmmmm ... seems to me with the ppc's ... I was flashing new roms almost daily ... talk about a waste of time ...

I was one of those guys that proclaimed "My ppc will do everything the iPhone will do!" ... for a long time ... and it would ... but having had every ppc verizon or sprint released and finally getting an iPhone ... I can tell you for a fact ... the ppc's do everything that the iPhone can do ... The big difference is that the iPhone does it soooooooo much easier .... maybe the droid will change that ... but until this new wannabe proves itself to me ... I'm sticking with my baby ...

Go back and look at all the "iPhone killers" that have come out (Q, Storm, Touch, etc) ... and it's still imho the best phone out there ...

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Kyo 6035, Sam I300, Sam I330, Kyo 7315, Treo 600, Sam I600, Sam I700, GL1000, HP6315, SX56, PDA2K, Jam, Xv6600 W/cam, Treo 650, I730 Wm2K3, Treo 700W, I730 w/WM 5.0, XV6700, Moto Q (Silver), Treo 700WX, xv6700 wm6, Moto Q Black, Moto Q9m, Sam I760, xv6800, xv6900, Q9C, Touch Pro, iPhone 3G 16G, iPhone 3gs 32G ... not even gonna list the non converged units

This is all healthy. I have been using PDA phones since they came out, back to the star tac with the little add-on, even the Handspring with the adapter. I changed my phone each time a new one came out, trust me that I have had them all, even the G-1000 which one day pick up HBO by mistake LOL.

All this to tell you that the iPhone JB is a great phone, non like it. We have had our challenges but it has been more this Yugo company AT&T than anything else. The iPhone has revolutionized the phone industry, with music, videos, apps and much more.

The Droid is our friend, its just more competition for the iPhone, just another thorn on Apples side. But this is all convenient for us, its a win/win situation because if the Droid is better, much better, then we will have a great phone thanks to the iPhone. If the phone falls short of the iPhone, then its going to push the iPhone to higher altitudes and we will have a better iPhone,

See, we win either way. In my opinion, the hype will die within 6 months but we will have a more sophisticated iPhone next July.

Running to the DROID before it has been tested in the real world is foolhardy. As someone who has run with smartphones since they first came out under Palm OS, through PPC, WinMo, and now the iPhone, I will wait and see what the true fallout is.

The DROID looks pretty sweet. Multitasking is nice but it is not a need I run into on a daily basis (and I am a heavy iPhone user). And depending upon how fast the Processor is under load, multitasking might mean very little as apps are becoming more and more bloated in terms of memory and Processor utilization. DROID will likely not sacrifice battery life for multitasking speed lest its customers loudly complain.

Network size is an issue for the minority. I say that because why would someone buy an iPhone 3G/3Gs who does not live and work and play in an area that offers 3G service? The larger network will be appealing to those who do a lot of travel and find themselves in areas without ATT 3G coverage. Or maybe those who have delayed getting an iPhone because ATT does not offer 3G in their area.

I mean I live in the Chicago area and everywhere I drive within a 3 hour radius of Chicago seems to have 3G. And when I do travel, I have 3G as well (Michigan, Washington DC, Los Angeles, Orlando, San Antonio, Denver, San Diego, etc.) Heck, if network size is the big issue, just wait until Verizon gets the iPhone. You know full well that when that becomes available, the ability to unlock your iPhone from ATT will be easily accomplished and those who need the larger network will just move. Thereby causing ATT sufficient pain and suffering but not hurting Apple in the slightest.

Apps: come on. Verizon is not likely to exceed the AppStore in the number of apps. Developers who wrote for the iPhone will port their apps to the DROID. Big Deal. This is a no-sum game and certainly not a reason to switch phones.

It just boils down to personal taste on the look the phone, whether you miss having a physical keyboard, and if you really use your phone as your primary camera device. I think the biggest impact on Apple is the reduction in new phone sales rather than the wholesale defection of existing iPhone customers to the DROID.

I think everyone's best bet is to wait and see what happens with 4G. My next phone move will likely depend upon how quickly ATT and Apple move to support 4G networking.

I have a family plan with ATT so the idea of switching two iPhones and three cell phones to a new provider isn't worth it unless the new provider is offering me 4G and either support for my iPhones or a sweet trade-in deal to move to the DROID. Plus, a one-year contract and a lower priced family plan with no loss or reduction in my current service features.

yeah great flowing reviews are coming in from our users.

http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/motor...11-5-09-a.html

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I'm rockin Verizon Fios baby! 20Mbs is dumb fast! http://www.speedtest.net/result/295783856.png

After just spending most of the week in an area without 3G and WiFi (in the middle of an industrial plant in western KY), I can tell you that if I lived there, I wouldn't have swapped to the iPhone. 2G is just frustrating. It feels like dropping back from a 9600 baud modem to 2400 baud. It brings back bad old memories of watching the status bar move ever so slowly. <shiver> If I were stuck with AT&T 2G on a daily basis, the Droid would be hugely attractive.

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"If it can't be expressed in figures, it is not science, it is opinion" - R. Heinlein

Held the Droid, played w/ the Droid... found out that I'm just playing w/ my iPhone and really doing something w/ the Droid.

Case is closed for me.

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iPhone 3G (sorry Sprint, I have been to the mountain top!) <-- Sprint Mogul PPC 6800 (not enough memory) <-- PPC 6700 (loaner from sprint) <-- PPC 6600 (no EVDO) <-- G1000 (no SMS) Cardo Scala-500 BT
I'm rockin Verizon Fios baby! 20Mbs is dumb fast! http://www.speedtest.net/result/295783856.png

Any detail?

Meaning what?

I like how responsive it is, easy to use, and of course how incredible the display is. Won't be checking the iPhone section much so sorry for the delay...

When you hold it, use the soft or hard keyboard, browse the web, type anything, it's all just smooth as butter. Plus for some reason the sound quality is noticeably better by a wide margin compared to the iPhone. Plus the D-pad is kinda cool and adds a nice experience to things. It's a bit odd having a D-pad on the keyboard since this is the 1st phone I have ever seen w/ one, but I'm happy it's there so far.

The Screen, camera, and responsiveness alone are one big nail in the coffin to the iPhone. But this is my soap box. If you are sticking w/ iPhone just because it's Apple then I guess that's a reason to respect w/ no complaints from me, but to stick w/ the iPhone for other reasons were just too hard to justify for me when I have to have the latest and greatest in tech that is a justifiable upgrade, and this is a big justifiable upgrade.

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iPhone 3G (sorry Sprint, I have been to the mountain top!) <-- Sprint Mogul PPC 6800 (not enough memory) <-- PPC 6700 (loaner from sprint) <-- PPC 6600 (no EVDO) <-- G1000 (no SMS) Cardo Scala-500 BT
I'm rockin Verizon Fios baby! 20Mbs is dumb fast! http://www.speedtest.net/result/295783856.png

I, for one, will be sorry to see you leave the iPhone forum. Good luck with the Droid. Hopefully, we'll see you back here when the next version of the iPhone is introduced.

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Thank Jay,

I may be around for a bit longer though as I am neck deep in CFP (certified financial planner) testing and don't have time to mess w/ a new phone yet.

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iPhone 3G (sorry Sprint, I have been to the mountain top!) <-- Sprint Mogul PPC 6800 (not enough memory) <-- PPC 6700 (loaner from sprint) <-- PPC 6600 (no EVDO) <-- G1000 (no SMS) Cardo Scala-500 BT
I'm rockin Verizon Fios baby! 20Mbs is dumb fast! http://www.speedtest.net/result/295783856.png

I just wish that Apple wasn't so restrictive. The OS is based on the same kernel as OS X used in their computers, so saying that it is not made for multitasking is not true (in fact it does it and handles it very well but only with Apple approval, ie the MMS, IPOD, Safari, Email, and other built in apps that run in the background while others are running).
As far as asking how you could swing the coverage area for both sides, AT$T can claim world wide coverage and 3G usage vs. Verizons larger US market, depends on your needs. I also like the fact of concurrent data and voice on AT$T that doesn't exist (without the use of wifi and cell radios concurrently) on Verizon, and would have a very hard time deciding if Verizon offered this ability.
I looked at the Droid and am very impressed, but would like to find out if Verizon has this device locked down in any way, like they have with their other devices. I would also like to see how this plays out for development as now a device that excites the masses exists so maybe development will be pushed. The Android app store has been around for about 1/2 to 3/4 of the time Apple App store and yet the numbers of apps are a mere fraction. Hopefully this new devices will spark interest.
I will be watching this device and waiting to see when the GSM equivalent comes to the states.

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it is true about the two different OS's. iPhone can't multitask, it's not in the OS for the iPhone to do it while the Droid was built around multitasking...

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iPhone 3G (sorry Sprint, I have been to the mountain top!) <-- Sprint Mogul PPC 6800 (not enough memory) <-- PPC 6700 (loaner from sprint) <-- PPC 6600 (no EVDO) <-- G1000 (no SMS) Cardo Scala-500 BT
I'm rockin Verizon Fios baby! 20Mbs is dumb fast! http://www.speedtest.net/result/295783856.png

I am not trying to start a debate, but it can multitask. The correct statement would be Apple doesn't allow multitasking and Android does. As has been proven time and again with the phone able to launch over the iPod or any other native Apple approved apps and return to them after call completion, this shows the ability to multitask but Apple is too restrictive and doesn't allow it. The OS itself is capable just isn't allowed to otherwise backgrounder never would have not been possible as it would have to have been an entire kernel and handler/scheduler replacement and not just an app.
In technical terms no single core system can truly multitask as there is only one Processor and it can only do one thing at a time. It just appears to multitask as the schedular and memory manager work so well togther that they are able to halt a process and focus on another very quickly while appearing as though the other process is still running, when it is in all actuality halted for the specified cycle/cycles. It takes a very special architecture to perform true multiasking or parallell processing.
Sorry but I am just a purist when it comes to some things and the OS is capable of percieved multitasking but Apple doesn't allow it ( and since it is based off the same OS X kernel it too is built around multitasking just not allowed to perform it by Apple's choice and a setting, that backgrounder changes and exploits).

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Got one ( Droid)for the wife yesterday and I already hate it. GUI sux, way more complicated than it should be. She has accidentally hung up/muted/initiated new call's almost everytime she's used the phone. The touch keys are WAY too sensitive. Just my intitial take, but I've had most every PDA/PDAphone available since early 90's. (She gave up a i760 for Droid) Nothing comes close to IPhone3gs. Best I've ever had. This is from a heavy daily users standpoint, not an IT geek or pro. However, I prefer Verizon's coverage. Just my.02

Thanks for the feedback, it wil be interesting for more to come. I've always jumped for the new technology. Don't even feel the urge to leave the 3GS.

However, feel the same about AT&T coverage and miss Verizon.

BTW, how does your wife feel about it?

I've owned a g1 and was not all that impressed with that. Better than any wm phone. But can't even compare it with the iPhone. Not to mension, the commercials suck for it. They show you how you can open the browser then watch a browser movie on YouTube. Do they want a cookie?