Yes, give it a good 8 hour charge !!!!.

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Funny it worked.....the last time!!Now I am not sure what was working before they put a hole in my head!!!!

Okay, I just turned off Wi Fi, Push, Location Services, and 3G. I've also turned off Auto-Brightness and moved it to about the 1/4 position. I'll give it a full, overnight charge via good old fashion AC charger tonight.

Anything else I'm forgetting?

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Nope, you got'm all

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Funny it worked.....the last time!!Now I am not sure what was working before they put a hole in my head!!!!

Actually, I forgot one: Vibrate. I realized it during dinner and turned it off too.

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The Fine Print:Nothing in this post (or any of my other posts) is intended to constitute legal advice or the establishment of an attorney-client relationship. For purposes of this forum, I'm just another nerd like you. :-)

Oh, at least for tonight, I'm not going to restore or sync my iPhone. I want to run it without any third party apps whatsoever. Even though the only app I have been regularly using was the AP newsreader, I want to make sure none of the many apps I downloaded was somehow draining the battery (even though that shouldn't have been the case).

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The Fine Print:Nothing in this post (or any of my other posts) is intended to constitute legal advice or the establishment of an attorney-client relationship. For purposes of this forum, I'm just another nerd like you. :-)

7:25 a.m.--I reset my usage stats and unplug the replacement iPhone. It charged for a good 9 hours or more since last night using the wall charger. Push, Wi Fi, Vibrate, and Location Services are off. Bluetooth is on, and brightness is set to about 25% with auto brightness turned off. I'm running 2.0.0 firmware. So, let's see how I do the next couple of days.

11:30 p.m.--Yes, it's been a loooong day for me. I just got home from the Diamondbacks game. They lost to the Marlins, 5-4, but that's a whole other story. With Push turned off and no third party apps installed, I really didn't use the iPhone much today, and the stats prove that:

• Usage since last full charge 1 hour, 4 minutes
• Standby time since last full charge 16 hours, 7 minutes
• Current Period Call Time 21 minutes
• Lifetime call time 49 minutes
• Data sent 0 bytes
• Data received 0 bytes

Yes, the data sent and received stats are accurate. I didn't manually fetch any e-mails today, nor did I use Safari. So, now, here's the thing (drum roll, please)....my battery looks like it's still at 100%. Amazing!!! Granted, my talk time is not what it has been, but I'm wondering whether (a) I really did have a defective battery or iPhone, (b) push e-mail was draining my battery that much, (c) the AP Mobile News app was draining my battery significantly (that's about the only app that I was using regularly, and that was only a couple of times a day for perhaps 5 minutes per shot), (d) some other third party app that I installed was draining the battery, (e) charging the iPhone using the AC adapter (rather than a computer) makes a noticeable difference in battery life. I know it's too early to tell and I'll need to run some more tests. However, I don't think I'll have time to resolve this issue before my thirty days are up.

BTW, here are my wife's iPhone stats:

• Usage since last full charge 5 hours, 28 minutes
• Standby 2 days, 15 hours
• Current period call time 1 hour, 1 minute
• Lifetime call time 5 hours, 10 minutes
• Data sent 391KB
• Data received 1.4MB

She is showing roughly 25% battery remaining.

Oh, my wife is complaining that she has trouble answering a call one-handed. She says when she swipes her hand over the screen, she doesn't always get it right the first time. Is there another way to answer a call? (She doesn't use a Bluetooth headset.)

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9:30 a.m.--When I checked my iPhone about an hour ago, just a sliver (and I do mean a sliver) of the battery icon was missing. I tried making two calls (got voice mail for both) and now just a little bit more (but noticeable) portion of the battery icon is missing. I say I still have 90% battery remaining. Stats are:

• Usage since last full charge 1 hours, 25 minutes
• Standby 1 Day, 2 Hours
• Current Period Call Time 25 minutes
• Lifetime Call Time 53 minutes
• Data sent 2.0KB
• Data Receive 1.0KB

I'm curious about the data stats. I had 0 data sent and received last night. I have push turned off, and I have not done manually retrieved e-mail or used Safari. So, what caused the data transmission?

BTW, here's a random thought: Has anyone else noticed that the vibrate switch inadvertantly ends up in the vibrate position? I didn't notice this with my previous 3G iPhone, but with the replacement I already have twice noticed it in the vibrate position when I did not intend to put it in that position. It seems as though when I pull the iPhone out (or put it in?) my belt case, I must be snagging the switch and causing it to move.

Oh yeah, the i760, which I have not used for anything but push e-mail is now showing a low battery warning this morning. Last night, around 11:00 p.m., it showed 25% battery remaining. Now, at 9:35 a.m., it --scratch that--I just went to check it again and it is dead. Looks like I got almost a full week on one charge on the i760, but without any usage other than push.

12:31 p.m.--I just got off an hour and half (1:31 to be more precise) telephone conversation with a friend of mine. I'm in my office and was wandering around the entire office space during the call. The call held for the entire conversation. Of course, I still have 3G off. Battery life now appears to be 50%, maybe a little more (55%?). I also received two voice mail messages while on the call. Stats now read:

• Usage since last full charge 3 hours, 2 minutes
• Standby since last full charge 1 day, 5 hours
• Current period call time 1 hours, 56 minutes
• Lifetime call time 2 hours, 24 minutes
• Data sent 2.0KB
• Data received 1.0KB

1:05 p.m. (appx.)--I unplug the i760. It is fully charged.

10:03 p.m.--I realize I haven't checked on my wife's iPhone so I take a peek. I immediately receive the 20% low battery warning. She's made only one phone call on it today (to me). Her usage stats are:

• Usage since last full charge 6 hours, 15 minutes
• Standby since last full charge 3 days, 14 hours
• Current Period Call Time 1 hours, 2 minutes
• Lifetime call Time 5 hours, 11 minutes
• Data Sent 433KB
• Data received 1.5MB

As a refresher, she has Wi Fi, Bluetooth, Location, and 3G all turned off. She has Push turned on, but the account tied her iPhone receives very few e-mails (1 or 2 per week, at the very most). Her iPhone normally has Vibrate turned off, but I just noticed that it actually is one for some weird reason. So, I'm not sure she got much more life out of hers that I've been getting out of mine, at least with respect to usage. However, I really need to go back and review all my prior reports. I'll charge her iPhone tonight and might even install the 2.0.2 update just to see what happens.

My iPhone has about 25-30% battery left. Usage is as follows:

• Usage time since last full charge 4 hours, minutes
• Standby since last full charge 1 day, 14 hours
• Current Period Call time 2 hours, 38 minutes
• Lifetime call time 3 hours, 6 minutes
• Data sent 7.0KB
• Data received 27.0KB

I'm not going to charge my iPhone this evening but will probably need to charge it tomorrow. I am still wondering what the data usage is all about--I've got push turned off and have not manually downloaded any data or used any apps so I'm very confused as to how the iPhone is receiving data.

I'll post my final thoughts tomorrow morning.

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4:05 p.m.--Been spending all day today with the family so haven't played with my iPhone at all. However, I did just upgrade my wife's iPhone to version 2.0.2. Her phone is now full charged too I'm going to unplug it at 4:10 p.m. I think I'll let her run for one day or so with 3G off, then I'll turn 3G on to see whether she notices any improvement with 2.0.2.

EDIT (8/25/08 @ 9:13 a.m.): I was busy with the family yesterday. I made one phone call that lasted maybe 5-7 minutes and received one phone call that lasted maybe 1-2 minutes. Beyond that, my iPhone didn't get much use so I have little to report. I was so busy, I didn't even get a chance to record the usage stats.

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7:25 a.m. (appx.)--I go to turn 3G on my wife's iPhone. I notice she only has 1 bar with 3G off. I turn 3G on. She suddenly shows "No Service." (Remember, I did the 2.0.2 update on her iPhone yesterday, but I haven't updated mine yet.) I take a look at my iPhone. It is showing 2 bars on Edge. I turn 3G off on my wife's iPhone. She goes back to showing 1 bar on EDGE while my iPhone shows 2 bars on EDGE (I'm holding them next to each other in my kitchen.) Granted it, this is very quick and one-time comparison; however, I'm thinking the 2.0.2 was a BAAAAAD idea. I'm definitely going to hold off on updating my iPhone to 2.0.2 (might try 2.0.1, though). In the meantime, I need to figure out how to downgrade my wife's iPhone back to 2.0.0. If she starts dropping calls, she's not going to want to keep the iPhone.

9:06 a.m.--When I checked my iPhone at 7:25 a.m. today, I received the 20% low battery warning. However, I didn't have time to check the stats. I have not made any calls or otherwise used the iPhone since 7:30ish this morning (although I did use it for 1 minute about 1/2 hour ago to check on the battery again). Current stats are:

• Usage since last full charge 5 hours, 3 minutes
• Standby 3 days, 1 hour
• Current call time 2 hours, 44 minutes
• Lifetime call time 3 hours, 12 minutes
• Data sent 7.0KB
• Data received 27.0KB

So, I'm not sure I'm going to reach my high of 7+ hours of usage even though I've got 3G, Location, Vibrate, Wi Fi, and Push turned off. I wonder why. Could be that I've got a little longer than normal call time, but not much there. Also, I did turn Wi Fi on briefly twice on Saturday, but I couldn't find a hotspot so I quickly turned it off. On the other hand, I have now gotten 3+ days of standyby time whereas before I was only getting two. Perhaps 1 day of standby is the equivalent of 2 or more hours of usage. I'm still puzzled by the data sent and received stats when I have Push and Wi Fi turned off and have not used pull at all.

So, I've got 3 days left to decide what I'm going to do. I'm still leaning toward keeping the iPhones. If I can get a full day out of the battery (which I know I can), I should be good because I don't mind charging every night if I have to. I'm still not convinced that turning Push off is really making that much difference in my battery life. After my next full charge (which should be later today), I might turn pull on. I'm thinking of setting it to fetch every 1/2 hour. I'll let the battery get down to 10% and then will charge.

2:13 p.m.--I get the 10% low battery warning so I charge the iPhone (using my Dell monitor at work). However, because I was so busy at work, I forgot to check the final usage stats. However, I didn't put that much call time or usage time on since this morning (maybe 5-10 minutes more since I checked this morning). I'm not convinced that turning off Push has really extended my battery life that much. When I went to pick up lunch around 12:30ish, I called my wife on her iPhone. The reception was not good, her voice sounded garbled, and the call ultimately dropped. We're pretty sure it was due to her iPhone, not mine.

5:05 p.m.--My iPhone is fully charged. I unplug it, reset the usage stats, and set it to fetch e-mail every 30 minutes. On my way to run an errand, I call my wife and talk to her for a few minutes. The call holds tight. I make my stop and then call her again. We talk again for a few minutes, and the call holds.

9:51 p.m.--I briefly turned 3G on on my iPhone (see my post about 3 posts below this one). I'm still showing 100% battery. Usage stats are:

• Usage since last full charge 2 hours, 3 minutes
• Standby since last full charge 4 hours, 47 minutes
• Current Period call time 14 minutes
• Liftime call time 3 hours, 42 minutes
• Data sent 109KB
• Data received 566 KB

The first stat seems very strange--I don't think I've used the iPhone for 2 hours of the past 5 hours. All I've done is periodically check on it. I just don't see it; there's no way I've used it for 2 hours. Very strange....

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The Fine Print:Nothing in this post (or any of my other posts) is intended to constitute legal advice or the establishment of an attorney-client relationship. For purposes of this forum, I'm just another nerd like you. :-)

When I updated to 2.02 I also got no service on 3G. I rebooted by holding the Home and Sleep/Wake buttons down until the device went off and then did it again until the Apple Logo appeared. I went back to 5 bars of 3G (I'm in NYC, so that's normal). I'll keep track of any reception changes and let you know. I'll be going to a difficult are later today where I might get 1 bar (or 1/2 a bar) of Edge. I AM able to get email and talk on the phone with this bad reception. I'll see if that continues. Good luck
Regards,
Kurt

Mine did the same thing until I rebooted.

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Rocking out with my iPhone out!

Thank you both! I'll try to remember to try rebooting her iPhone when I get home this evening.

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About 10 minutes ago, I turned 3G back on on my wife's iPhone. Sure enough, it registered "No Service" in our house. So, I then rebooted her iPhone. Now it's getting service but is jumping between 1 and 3 bars.

I'm getting 2-3 bars on my iPhone using EDGE. When I turned 3G on on my iPhone, I get 1 bar. When I put my iPhone next to my wife's, mine shows 1 bar (3G) and hers shows 1 bar (3G) too. Now, mine switches to 2 bars but on EDGE; my wife's is holding steady at 1 bar on 3G. Now mine shows 4 bars on EDGE; hers still shows 1 bar on 3G. Now I get 2 bars on 3G, but she gets 1 on 3G. All of this switching is in the span of 1-2 minutes. I'm sitting on a couch in my family room and note moving. Now my wife'shas 2 bars (3G) and mine has one 1 bar (3G). So far, it's looking as though the 2.0.2 update might have helped the iPhone hold a 3G signal but that's about it.

Time for me to eat dinner. I'll leave 3G on my wife's iPhone (so she can see whether 2.0.2 helps in the trouble spots). I'm turning it off on mine.

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The Fine Print:Nothing in this post (or any of my other posts) is intended to constitute legal advice or the establishment of an attorney-client relationship. For purposes of this forum, I'm just another nerd like you. :-)

I was shocked when I checked my iPhone around 8:00 a.m. this morning and only had about 50% battery life. What happened overnight to cause my battery to go from 100% to 50%? I've got Push turned off. Could it be the pull every 30 minutes? Wi Fi, Location, 3G, and Vibrate are still off.

9:17 a.m. I'm showing less than 50% battery (maybe 40-45%) left. Here are my stats:

• Usage since last full charge 12 hours, 47 minutes
• Standby since last full charge 16 hours, 11 minutes
• Current period call time 14 minutes
• Lifetime call time 3 hours, 42 minutes
• Data sent 388KB
• Data received 1.7MB

Something weird is going on. I was asleep from roughly midnight until about 7:00 a.m. I was nowhere near my iPhone. So, other than what should have been brief checks for e-mail every 30 minutes, I should not have had any usage for 7 hours. Even if my iPhone spent 1 minute every 30 minutes checking for e-mail, that still would be only 14 minutes of usage while I slept. In other words, I should have at least a 6 hour and 45 minute difference between the standby and the usage, not the less than 3 hours being shown by the status. So, what is the world is happening?

3:09 p.m.--My iPhone gives me the 20% battery warning. I'm at court and am unable to write down all the stats. I'll do so when I get back to the office.

3:30 p.m. (appx.)--I get in the car and notice my i760 is beeping. Low battery (very low). I know it's going to shut itself down soon; it's already turned everything else off.

5:05 p.m.--I'm back at the office. I've made/received a few phone calls. Incidentally, one of those calls was from my wife. Her phone held the call, even in our neighborhood while on 3G. I'm now getting the 10% low battery warning now. My stats are:

• Usage 17 hours, 31 minutes
• Standby 1 day, 0 hours
• Current period call time 1 hour, 15 minutes
• Lifetime call time 4 hours, 43 minutes
• Data sent 522 KB
• Data Received 2.1MB

It's just not right that with everything other than Bluetooth turned off I've only gotten 24 hours of standby time and 1 hour, 15 minutes of call time. I need to contact Apple.

6:10 p.m. (appx.)--I'm home and plug the iPhone into the wall charger. I'll let it charge fully overnight and unplug in the a.m.

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The Fine Print:Nothing in this post (or any of my other posts) is intended to constitute legal advice or the establishment of an attorney-client relationship. For purposes of this forum, I'm just another nerd like you. :-)

You definitely have a defective iPhone........period. I suggest you call Apple care again and they will give you another new phone..have them set up an appointment with Genius at your local Apple store for you, they will give you a case number and document on their computers and when you go there voila its all set up for you, its better this way trust me I have been that road many times before ......oh my I hate to see you get defective phones, but hey anything can happen !!!! My first phone had this issue and got a new replacement and all's fine in the kool-aid land!!!!!!! I don't believe it has anything to do with your settings this time. that is sure not acceptable with the battery life. You know something , tells me Apple released these new gen phones WITHOUT any real testing. I don't care what others have to say that's just my observation.

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Funny it worked.....the last time!!Now I am not sure what was working before they put a hole in my head!!!!

So, this is my second dud? If anything, replacement seems worse that the first one. Very strange.

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The Fine Print:Nothing in this post (or any of my other posts) is intended to constitute legal advice or the establishment of an attorney-client relationship. For purposes of this forum, I'm just another nerd like you. :-)

This is my usage stats.....Push OFF, BT on, 3G OFF, LBS OFF and Vibrate OFF. Charged battery to full from 11PM last night to 7AM this morning, turned on phone at 8:05 AM.
Usage--------3 Hours, 48Minutes
Standby------9 Hours, 11 Minutes
CALL TIME
Current Period...3 Hours, 7 Minutes
Lifetime............18 hours, 2 minutes
CELLULAR NETWORK DATA
Sent....5.0KB
Received....21.0KB
I have exactly 50% battery left.

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Funny it worked.....the last time!!Now I am not sure what was working before they put a hole in my head!!!!

Are you pulling e-mail? If so, how often?

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The Fine Print:Nothing in this post (or any of my other posts) is intended to constitute legal advice or the establishment of an attorney-client relationship. For purposes of this forum, I'm just another nerd like you. :-)

No email at all. I cant get our IT dept to approve the iPhone for our secure servers

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Funny it worked.....the last time!!Now I am not sure what was working before they put a hole in my head!!!!

lol.......


Another phone?

Jay I am sorry but I think its time to revert back to your trusty i760.
I dont think this device is ready for you yet.

Wait until the next release of this device is released and start enjoying life again!

Best of Luck

Mark

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VZW, It's 2009! Time to embrace technology, not suppress it. - oops too late I've moved on over to the iPhone w/ AT$T!