Thanks for all the good info! I am trying to get a release date but have came across nothing more than speculation to its release being the end of November.

In response to this quote, I am having a hard time believing this because I just went through the user manual for both the S720(Quest) and the HTC5800(Bell). They are seemingly the same phone, but the 720 has more ram/rom and it doesnt have a Java feature like the 5800. What is even more interesting is the fact that HTC lists on its website that the 720 has "ROM: 256MB, RAM: 64MB" and the user manual for the 5800 state the LIBR100 (which is the model number for both devices) has "• ROM-Nand Flash: 128 MB (Standard) • RAM: 64 MB DDR." This would prove that the two "Libras" from Quest and Bell are in fact different. You say that the two phones are S720s but the Bell manual gives specs of a HTC5800(Bell). Furthermore, the HTC website depicts two versions of the HTC5800. One version has more ram/rom, a "rectangular" appearance, and is used by Quest, the other has less ram/rom, a "rounded" appearance, and is used by Bell.

That being said, how do you know the SMT5800 is the HTC720 wrapped in a different coat? The picture of the HTC5800(Bell) looks identical to the one Verizon has showed. Who is to say its not the S730 (wouldnt that be sweet!) isnt wrapped in a different shell? Perhaps verizon will get the HTC5800 that quest has, but then it wouldnt look like the picture Verizon has been showing off.