so im just made it back from the Verizon store with the "new phone" and it doesnt even have the VOID sticker over the screw in back. This is my second refurbished phone since Dec. '05, and its cheaper looking and feeling than the last one.

One thing i should mention is that my battery doesnt hold a charge anymore. I think it may just die in thr process of rebooting. I took it out and have it in the cradle charging by itself. Once the light tirns green, i will try the flash update again, then if not try the last posts unlock software. Hopefully one of these 2 methods will work. Until then, thanks for everything!!!

I'll let you know how it goes, if anyone cares.

p.s. I already ordered a new battery from one of the recommended vendors
in the replacement battery thread here.