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Originally Posted by Mark_A_K
OK I have already posted a message to Convergent in the web site improvment area on this matter but I still think this is a self serving effort and it's not going to get it in their hands any faster.
A phone to any one like MRailing and SD is nothing compared to the actual compensation they should be getting.
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We are going back and forth, saying the same thing over and over. So, to repeat, I agree - the work that at least one moderator (MRailing) puts into this forum is certainly worth FAR more than the price of a phone. I can't address any of the other forums on pdaphonehome.com. I don't know how much effort any other moderater puts in. But the answer to that question would be, at a minimum, what Convergent would need to consider before he could even begin to entertain your proposal. Your suggestion simply does not allow for examining the big picture. And, only Convergent can speak to that.
What MRailing does for our forum is, quite frankly, exceptional. It goes beyond what just being a moderator is about. A moderator, as I understand it, is someone who makes sure that the forums are run smoothly, with no objectionable content, with things staying on topic, etc. However, MRailing does all that - and simultaneously provides superior tech support and assistance to nearly every person that has visited the forums. He has written entire manuals on set up. But, you all know this - it doesn't need my rehearsing it.
Is what MRailing does worth more? Absolutely. And, I can't speak for him, but I beleive that he does what he does because he loves doing it. He didn't start as the moderator in here for financial gain. Which isn't to say that he doesn't need the finances. It's just a simple fact that he does what he is doing - in this forum - for the satisfaction of doing the best he can.
Now, I have said all that - multiple times now. And I am leaving it at that.
But, I am a bit put-off at a continual posting about doing something different, or that this doesn't adequately compensate, etc etc. And, your last post, Mark, was edited from originally just saying "Self serving........". I don't know who or what you think is being self-served. I am gaining nothing from this at all, other than the aggravation of posting these follow ups. Neither Mike nor Dave has asked me to do this.
I simply know how much I have appreciated all that the two of them have done to make the i730 what it is for us. And if there is anything self-serving about all of this, it is that I would love to see that assistance continue. And, I remember that because SuperDave had been so helpful with the i700 - and I was a part of that forum, too - that the effort was made to get him the next phone (the i730) so he would be able to once again supply that help. And he did. The forum chipped in, with an effort much like this, and he was purchased a phone. And, I believe that Convergent matched the funds that the forum raised, helping to enable that.
So, if you want to be a part of this simple suggestion, then fine. If not, then don't. But, can we stop this off-topic back and forth about the value of MRailing's assistance, which we both agree is worth far more than the phone that I have proposed we assist in purchasing. This is just a simple effort.
What do you do on birthdays at your house? If someone gives you a gift, do you look at them, and tell them and the others in the room that you are worth far more than the gift? I certainly hope not. You say a sincere thank you, and receive the gift.
So, let's just give them a gift, ok? Is this really all that complicated?