Ya GhengisEEK the problem with the swivel clips is that if the holster is removable from the clip your right the thing extends 2 feet off your hip. I just bought this one http://www.seidioonline.com/PhotoGal...tCode=HLTR650B And even though its a swivel it sits the same as a nonswivel but you cant take it off the clip. This one faces out http://store.treocentral.com/content.../4-24--115.htm but that swivel looks huge. I looked at that vaja heres a link if anyones curious. http://www.1src.com/?m=show&id=646 With proclip for my treo 600 http://store.treocentral.com/content...s/4-24--58.htm I could face my treo in or out. It didnt look perfect facing out but there was nothing wrong with it either. It couldnt fall out. Im not sure if your looking for a clip for 600 or 650. I should get my proclip for the 650 by friday http://www.proclipusa.com/?sectionpa...oryid=&p_year= if you want I'll let you know if the 650 sits well facing out.



Mistered which clip are you talking about. I think they only have 2 but I was curious. I couldnt picture what you were saying.